What choke for Traynor YBA-1?

toneseeker74

New member
I have an early 70's Traynor YBA-1. This is the small cabinet with rounded corners. My particular amp never had a factory installed choke. I am thinking of adding one. What specs should I be looking for if I purchase one? BTW, there is no schematic pasted inside the amp cabinet. Thanks :)
 
Re: What choke for Traynor YBA-1?

Join Yahoo Groups Traynor Amp forum.
BTW, just got back my YBA-1a, also early 70's, and it does sound pretty dang great. Like so much I'm thinking of trying to sell my old Marshall Superlead.IDK.
 
Re: What choke for Traynor YBA-1?

Hammond lists the 194F and 194G for plexi and JMP style amps. One choke is rated at 3 henries, the other is 5 henries. I thought this was strange because Marshall schematics show a spec of 20 henries in the plexi circuit.

I guess what I need are the ratings in hernies and milliamps to get the proper choke. Hammond told me to contact Traynor. I can't find an email address on the Traynor web site. There is a link that will send an email via Outlook, but I don't use Outlook.
 
Re: What choke for Traynor YBA-1?

You need to 2x check my calcs...but if you are talking about a "typical" 50 Plexi power supply, you are only choking the screens and the preamp...I would say 50 mA 500 Volts and about 200-500 Ohms would be about right.
Henries...maybe keep it low compared to a BF Fender.....3-5 I would think.
But check with one of the guys that are good at building and really know their stuff.
You may want to just try a "sag resistor"...but that CAN be as much work as installing a choke.
Is it a Feel/Tone thing you are after, or are you having "noise" issues.?
best
 
Re: What choke for Traynor YBA-1?

Traynor's US email address is: usa@yorkville.com

They've been helpful when I've contacted them about wiring mods to modern Traynor amps . . . not sure how good they'll be about 60 year old discontinued models. Worth a shot though!
 
Re: What choke for Traynor YBA-1?

Oh I see you say Marshall shows 20 Henries for a Plexi.....I would have thought lower...guess I was wrong.
How much filtering is there to do after the plates anyway though.?
Interesting post OP
 
Re: What choke for Traynor YBA-1?

I referenced schematics for a JTM45 and JTM45/100 Marshall to get the 20H info.
No noise issues, I just want to tighten it up.
Thanks for the email address for Traynor! I also wanted to ask them whether the output transformer on my amp had an unused 16-ohm tap.
 
Re: What choke for Traynor YBA-1?

I just emailed Traynor. Look forward to their response!
Thank you to everyone for all of your help. I love this board!
 
Re: What choke for Traynor YBA-1?

No word from Traynor yet. A rep at Mojo Musical Supply suggested that I use a replacement choke for a 50 watt JMP.

On a practical note, what do I need to consider when physically mounting it to the amp chassis? I'm wondering about orientation of the laminations and placement. There isn't enough room between the PT and OT. The only real place I can see to mount it would be toward the preamp / input side of the chassis. Would this be problematic in any way?
 
Re: What choke for Traynor YBA-1?

No word from Traynor yet. A rep at Mojo Musical Supply suggested that I use a replacement choke for a 50 watt JMP.

On a practical note, what do I need to consider when physically mounting it to the amp chassis? I'm wondering about orientation of the laminations and placement. There isn't enough room between the PT and OT. The only real place I can see to mount it would be toward the preamp / input side of the chassis. Would this be problematic in any way?
I would think the last place you would want any extra magnetic flux would be near the input and/or preamp tubes.
This amp is SS Rectified already.?
How much filtering is it using for the Power Tube Plates now...have you tried increasing that at all.?
You would definitely have to talk to somebody who has tried it with a 1986-1987 Marshall...but I am not sure how big of a difference you will feel/hear with a choke.
Then again, they are not that expensive, so you could find out for yourself what the real difference is.
You could maybe even temporarily install the choke outside the chassis, in its more typical location near the PT and OT, and see what you think.
Or depending on what Traynor is using, you could try 2x50 mics // of caps to the power tubes and see what that does.
best
 
Re: What choke for Traynor YBA-1?

My tech put two screen resistors on my YBA-1a . I am assuming it kind of acts like a choke, to smooth voltages in a way allowing one to make use modern cheap tubes . There are no Screen resistors in the YBA-1a circuit .

Unless I can spring for a set of el34 Telefunkens or Mullards, there is a very real possibility of my Traynor, or any amp using mdern tubes, having a tube melt down, and taking out everything else down the line including possibly the PT( although the Traynor PT is massive and should be able to survive a nuclear catastrophe though ) so I think I will get an HT fuse installed..it just makes good sense on any amp .

Pardon me if I am misunderstanding the role of a Choke, I'm not a tech just skip that part, and everything else I wrote is good I think.

By the way, I am doing the 5F-6a thing with my Taynor. I am leaving the one .01 Fender Bassman value cap in - I forgot what they call that section- ( instead of changing it to the .02 plexi cap), and I am replacing the two 100K film resistors for two 270K Carbon comp Fender Bassman Value caps in the 'mixer'(?)
section.

I'm also looking at changing the bright cap on the treble to 3.33K Pf , i think it is -to work better with the 47K slope resistor. I'll maybe take a look at changing thr posts out-although it don't look like I got the bad 4 meg pots.
Heck, at some point I might even get a smaller vintage power tranny installed to saturate more like an old Bassman! I'm not sure if the tubes can be changed to 6L6's . Thats the cool thing about those traynors man..you can't ruin the value cause they aren't worth that much to being with.
 
Last edited:
Re: What choke for Traynor YBA-1?

I designed a choke in the recto circuit to eliminate recto-sag... A Hammond 5 henry worked in conjunction with my first screen resistor, and it gets naturally smooth distortion, no sag whatsoever... creamy!!
 
Back
Top