Hi. I have a question I’m pretty sure I know the answer to but I do t really know the “why”. So why can’t I take an amp head, like the Orange Micro Terror 20watt, and go direct line from the “speaker out” and plug that into the line-in of a digital multitrack recorder, to record my guitar through that amp? Or can I do that and get ok results?
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you can use a line out but not a speaker out and even the direct out wont sound "right" the speaker is a big part of the sound of an electric guitar so most people use a speaker simulator of one kind or another
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Speaker out is High Current/Voltage not Line Level -DO NOT DO THAT
Your Multitrack recorder input can ONLY take line level or less -meaning you need a "line out" of the amp -so since you don't have one -use the Phone out -but only one side -either left or right. -“For me, when everything goes wrong – that’s when adventure starts.” Yvonne Chouinard
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Originally posted by jeremy View Postyou can use a line out but not a speaker out and even the direct out wont sound "right" the speaker is a big part of the sound of an electric guitar so most people use a speaker simulator of one kind or another
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You can do this safely by running the headphone out from your Micro Terror to your interface. It emulates a 4x12 cab, too.
You can't do that with most all-tube amps but with Orange Micro heads, you can safely run them unloaded.Last edited by Empty Pockets; 04-18-2019, 01:27 PM.green globe burned black by sunn
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To clarify:
Never connect anything else, except speaker or load box designed to replace the speaker, to Speaker out.
If your amp has Solid State power amp, you can run it without speaker connected.
If it has headphone out or line out you can use that to record direct.
If your amp has Tube power amp, never turn it on without speaker, or load that replaces the speaker."So understand/Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years/Face up, make your stand/And realize you're living in the golden years"
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Good stereo or high fi speakers will reproduce sound in a very neutral and flat way from 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz. Guitar speakers are anything but flat. They're usually extremely hyped in the mid range with little to no bass and high frequencies. Try plugging your guitar into the line in on a hi-fi system and you'll see what it sounds like when you record direct in . . . it's a weird sound that your ears are not used to. The amp speaker radically reshapes the sound of the amp, and we're very used to hearing it.Join me in the fight against muscular atrophy!
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Ok thanks for all your replies. I really didn’t know I should completely avoid using the speaker out as line out. Or not to run an amp head with out speaker or something connected.
So are amps with “emulated speaker out” through the headphone jacks any different than any amp that has a “headphone out” jack? Or does an emulated headphone out have something more to it? Would the “speaker out” to a Red Box type amp simulator give me better sound than “headphone out”?
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Originally posted by Martyb View PostOk thanks for all your replies. I really didn’t know I should completely avoid using the speaker out as line out. Or not to run an amp head with out speaker or something connected.
So are amps with “emulated speaker out” through the headphone jacks any different than any amp that has a “headphone out” jack? Or does an emulated headphone out have something more to it? Would the “speaker out” to a Red Box type amp simulator give me better sound than “headphone out”?
Also -let me be very clear -IF YOU HAVE A HEADPHONE OUTPUT CONNECTED -YOU DO NOT NEED A SPEAKER CAB ATTACHED TO THE SPEAKER OUTPUT -engaging the headphone out bypasses the input to the output transformer -I read the manual for you.
but the moment you pull a cable out of the headphone output -if the amp is on you MUST have a load (Speaker cabinet attached)Last edited by NegativeEase; 04-18-2019, 06:28 PM.“For me, when everything goes wrong – that’s when adventure starts.” Yvonne Chouinard
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You need to line out (many ways, some built in) somehow with your amp, then in the DAW use a speaker iR (if you want full control over the "speaker" tone, that is).
For example, here's my ADA MP-1 lined out to DAW with speaker iR, EQ, etc:
Last edited by LLL; 04-18-2019, 06:38 PM.
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Originally posted by NegativeEase View Postbut the moment you pull a cable out of the headphone output -if the amp is on you MUST have a load (Speaker cabinet attached)Last edited by devastone; 04-18-2019, 06:40 PM.
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Originally posted by devastone View Post*EDIT* I did say that the micro terror doesn't need a speaker hooked up because it is a solid state amp, but NegativeEase is correct, the manual does say it needs to have a speaker connected.
It's probably a good idea never unplug the speaker cabinet.“For me, when everything goes wrong – that’s when adventure starts.” Yvonne Chouinard
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Originally posted by devastone View PostI didn't think you were calling me out at all, good catch. Not sure why that would be on a SS amp, but safest to do what the manual says.“For me, when everything goes wrong – that’s when adventure starts.” Yvonne Chouinard
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