AMT M1 vs M2 vs P1 vs JCM900 SL-X

[misterwhizzy]

Re: AMT M1 vs M2 vs P1 vs JCM900 SL-X

Yeah, this has me seriously reconsidering everything, but what would I spend all my tube-rolling time and money on? Practice? That would ruin everything.

[JesusCrisp]

Re: AMT M1 vs M2 vs P1 vs JCM900 SL-X

Having owned an SL-X myself, it's pretty scary how close the pedals get, especially like the M2 (first clip at least).
To my ears, just a very slight hint of bite, growl and openness missing from the M1/M2 pedals, which would definitely go unnoticed in a live- or practice situation anyway.
Rig sounds great, especially considering size, cost and ease of transportation compared to a tube rig (which you would most likely run pedals through anyway).

Really makes one think why even bother with tube amps.

[NecroPolo]

Re: AMT M1 vs M2 vs P1 vs JCM900 SL-X

Yeah, this has me seriously reconsidering everything, but what would I spend all my tube-rolling time and money on? Practice? That would ruin everything.

Practice would definitely ruin everything I'm not joking. I attended 2 years of jazz college a couple of years ago because of a music teaching license. The daily dose of practising needed to get all the theory hubble-bubble into motor skills without honestly enjoying it made me hate it so much that I had to decide if I finish the school and quit music forever gettin' sick of it or I quit the school and slowly re-train myself to be the instinct-driven player I was before. I decided the later and never regretted it.

On tube heads, they absolutely make sense. What would I do without them on reamping sessions? I can't show the clients a $100 pedal that "okay dude I ran your signal through this little one..." During audio production folks listen with their eyes. If their eyes see the big amp they will hear the big amp (and not the little pedal lurking around somewhere in the signal chain... er... you know)

Having owned an SL-X myself, it's pretty scary how close the pedals get, especially like the M2 (first clip at least).
To my ears, just a very slight hint of bite, growl and openness missing from the M1/M2 pedals, which would definitely go unnoticed in a live- or practice situation anyway.
Rig sounds great, especially considering size, cost and ease of transportation compared to a tube rig (which you would most likely run pedals through anyway).

Really makes one think why even bother with tube amps.

Thanks for the good words. You're right, the dynamics feel to be a little processed, a litte like playing a mic'd rig in the studio listening through monitor speakers rather than standing before an amp that flaps the pants.

You're spot on about the transportation. That's why I started to use AMT gear. My spine gave up after an ample of heavy lifting around 2010. I used double half-stacks every show since the mid-90s and despite that we had stage hands, at the end of the day I ended up moving the hill alone at home. This and polyarthritis made my spine one day saying: no. So I needed a superlight solution to be able to continue playing onstage. I used these preamps with an EHX pocket power amp and a light cab for years (absolutely roadworthy) and lately I just go directly to the PA / FRFR like this:

[Aceman]

Re: AMT M1 vs M2 vs P1 vs JCM900 SL-X

I'll take the SL-X all day every day!

[NecroPolo]

Re: AMT M1 vs M2 vs P1 vs JCM900 SL-X

I'll take the SL-X all day every day!

I would, I would! My spine just wouldn't.

Sometimes I get that old dawg onstage when I have help moving it out of its den with its battered 4x12" Laney Greenback cab. Mostly it serves its studio time now'days.

[misterwhizzy]

Re: AMT M1 vs M2 vs P1 vs JCM900 SL-X

Well, I guess they cater to tube-rollers now as well. These look fascinating.

[NecroPolo]

Re: AMT M1 vs M2 vs P1 vs JCM900 SL-X

Well, I guess they cater to tube-rollers now as well. These look fascinating.

I havent't played those yet but they are on my map.

[moshpit817]

Re: AMT M1 vs M2 vs P1 vs JCM900 SL-X

It's nice to meet you bro, then I'm really glad to help. That was the whole point of making the video.

I had the D2 Diezel pedal and the B1 Bogner and they both were awesome..I sold them like a dumba** nut there are more out there..nice comparison and video.

[NecroPolo]

Re: AMT M1 vs M2 vs P1 vs JCM900 SL-X

I had the D2 Diezel pedal and the B1 Bogner and they both were awesome..I sold them like a dumba** nut there are more out there..nice comparison and video.

Thanks in the name of bytes'n'pieces. I sold a couple of them before and ended up buying back and convincing the buyers to sell them back.