How would you compare/contrast these amps? I have an SG Standard with '59's and I'm playing lots of Zep/Cream/ZZ Top. Really looking for that warm, fat CRUNCH.
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Marshall DSL401 vs. Peavey Classic 30
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Re: Marshall DSL401 vs. Peavey Classic 30
The 401 will out crunch the Classic 30. But pre-mid 2003 401's had some reliability issues. the Classic 30 is usually rock-solid. Some people are revisiting the 401 after the fix from Marshall.
It is hard to beat the Classic 30 as a hard/classic rock amp. You can re-tube it with high-gain tubes, and change the speaker to suit your tastes.Jackson, Ibanez & Ovation Guitars
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Originally posted by jonnymangiaWHat kind of speaker do you recommend? A Celestion? Do they make that much of a diff. in sound?
Your ears are different than mine, and really there are too many speakers that are "just a little bit" different that would work in that amp.
If it were me, I would go with an Eminence Governor or an Eminence Wizard or a Celestion V30. I would have to live with the amp a bit to make my decision.
If it is a used amp, or an amp that is at least 2 years old, I would retube it also.Jackson, Ibanez & Ovation Guitars
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((tube max dissipation wattage / amp plate voltage) x % of max dissipation wattage) x 1000 = bias current in mA
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Re: Marshall DSL401 vs. Peavey Classic 30
If you're looking for a Zep/Cream type crunch, I'd stick with the marshall...If I know I'm going crazy, I must not be insane.
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Marshall dls401 I dont like the loose bottom end on the peavey's they are good for low to mid gain work but are not very tight, they have a lot of mids which kinda of compromises the cleans.PRS McCarty (59n, 59b)
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I own a 2001 model DSL 401.
The clean gain starts to distort at 4 onwards. So heard from the experts, you needa change the preamp tubes to something else that would help in the clean going further so you can turn the amp louder with a good loud gain than sticking with 2-3.
It gets real hot after awhile of playing, so I installed a heat sink on the tubes and stop playing after about 2 hrs and let the thing rest before I continue again.Gibson Songwriter Deluxe
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Originally posted by itbepopplesDoes the DSL 401 have seperate EQs? My only gripe with the C30 is the shared EQ. I don't want my cleans to just be a less gainy version of my dirty.Jackson, Ibanez & Ovation Guitars
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((tube max dissipation wattage / amp plate voltage) x % of max dissipation wattage) x 1000 = bias current in mA
"There was never a horse that couldn't be rode, never a man that couldn't be throwed." - Marshall Matt Dillon - GUNSMOKE (1959)
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I've had a Classic 30 and I currently use a 401.
The Classic 30 had great cleans and sounded fantastic when overdriven... I loved the blues tones I could get out of it - both clean and dirty. Never really tried it for rock.
I've been using the 401 for a few years now. I'd say that the cleans are just disappointing. The OD channels pretty good, but I've heard better. I'm content with this at the moment, but I think I'll always prefer the Classic 30.
In terms of directly contrasting them, I always thought of the classic 30 as Peavey's take on the fender tone. And the marshall... is a marshall. i'd use the classic 30 for the cleaner stuff, and the marshall for the higher gain stuff.
Hope that helped.
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I own a Classic 30 and it is killer.... Got it for cheap used and it has proven to be a great portable loud amp that covers me in at jams and practices... Neat tool! I prefer the Marshall combos gain over the Classic 30.... But i paid such a good price for a used C30 the Marshall seems so expensive..
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I think the DSL401 cleans are pretty disapointing as well. I have an SG Standard...you think I can dial in The Who/Live at Leeds, Cream, early ZZ Top tones with the Classic 30? Whe you guys mentioned it being similar to a Fender I immediately think it's more suited for cleans than dirt. I've also coma across another Marshall combo, albeit an older one - the JCM800. Is that a metal amp or are the cleans better?--------------------------------
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Originally posted by jonnymangiaI think the DSL401 cleans are pretty disapointing as well. I have an SG Standard...you think I can dial in The Who/Live at Leeds, Cream, early ZZ Top tones with the Classic 30? Whe you guys mentioned it being similar to a Fender I immediately think it's more suited for cleans than dirt. I've also coma across another Marshall combo, albeit an older one - the JCM800. Is that a metal amp or are the cleans better?
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Originally posted by jonnymangiaI think the DSL401 cleans are pretty disapointing as well. I have an SG Standard...you think I can dial in The Who/Live at Leeds, Cream, early ZZ Top tones with the Classic 30? Whe you guys mentioned it being similar to a Fender I immediately think it's more suited for cleans than dirt. I've also coma across another Marshall combo, albeit an older one - the JCM800. Is that a metal amp or are the cleans better?
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