Marshall 1959SLP re-issue question

[GAWA]

I was looking at the online version of the manual for this amp on the Marshall website and it talks about being able to use both channels of the amplifier at once for greater flexibility. Here is the quote from the site:

"Some guitar players prefer to mix the two channels together by connecting a short, screened patch lead between the second input of Channel 1 and the first input of Channel 2. If you then plug your guitar into the first input of Channel 1, you can mix the different tonal characters of each channel for greater flexibility."

Now I don't have one of these amps so I can't test this out myself, but hopefully I will be getting one in the future. I'm just wondering if someone could tell me what the sound is like if you do mix both channels like this? Can anyone give me some more information?

Cheers.

[JeffB]

Re: Marshall 1959SLP re-issue question

yeah...thats called "jumpin" the channels

Some people prefer that sound...basically you end up about halfway between the bright and normal channels tone-wise...you get some high end from the bright...and a bit more low end from the normal channel...and again gain-wise you are between the two channels...

Its a nice sound...I've heard some old plexis/metalfaces where I liked it..on my 1987X I don't really care for it as much....

[GAWA]

Re: Marshall 1959SLP re-issue question

I see. Thanks for that information.

Anyone else with any experience of doing this?

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

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Yeah I do the same, but I had it modded so both volumes works without the cable.

[ErikH]

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I've done it and like it. Sounds even better with the amp cranked to 10. Good thing we had an attenuator on hand that day.

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Marshall 1959SLP re-issue question

Heh I hate those things...attenuators that be!
They destroy the sound somehow.

[gOgIver]

Re: Marshall 1959SLP re-issue question

Heh I hate those things...attenuators that be!
They destroy the sound somehow.

And your transform...ah Shh

[kevlar3000]

Re: Marshall 1959SLP re-issue question

Bridged channels can get a bit too muddy on the bottom for me. ( Depends on the amp) my Carlsbro loves it, my Plexi RI didn't. You can still dial in volume 2 w/o bridging for a more transparent version of the same thing. Even when not plugged in the volume settings will affect both inputs. I prefer that much more.

Another cool thing to try is to plug into to bottom input of channel one ( low gain input) and then put a 1/4th headphone jack in the top hi gain input on the same channel, no bridging needed. it is a very cool alteration of basic tone that is a little bit warmer than just plugging into the top volume 1 input.

[kevlar3000]

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And your transform...ah Shh

Unless it is the old Tom Scholz powersoak or a Powerbrake with a blown resistor there is usually not an issue provided you hook em up correctly ( ohms ohms ohms) and use good cable. I would be willing to bet that most failure is due to the user and improper application. I have used mine for almost 3 years with 12 different vintage heads 11 older than 1972. I push my amps hard and use them almost daily. No trannies lost here, nor is there the tonal loss that I hear about, I blame low output on speakers just as much as the attenuator. I will agree that there are some models that are better than others but most of the current gen sounds great unless you are trying to get 5 watts out of a 100.

[gOgIver]

Re: Marshall 1959SLP re-issue question

Unless it is the old Tom Scholz powersoak or a Powerbrake with a blown resistor there is usually not an issue provided you hook em up correctly ( ohms ohms ohms) and use good cable. I would be willing to bet that most failure is due to the user and improper application. I have used mine for almost 3 years with 12 different vintage heads 11 older than 1972. I push my amps hard and use them almost daily. No trannies lost here, nor is there the tonal loss that I hear about, I blame low output on speakers just as much as the attenuator. I will agree that there are some models that are better than others but most of the current gen sounds great unless you are trying to get 5 watts out of a 100.

Improper use is a good enough reason to ask "did you ever use an attenuator with this amp?" and a good enough reason to pass on a deal.

[kevlar3000]

Re: Marshall 1959SLP re-issue question

Improper use is a good enough reason to ask "did you ever use an attenuator with this amp?" and a good enough reason to pass on a deal.

There is a host of other questions to ask beyond that one. The burden of application is on the user, not the tool. When used properly there should be no issue. That mantra applies to every tool on this planet. If you are passing on a deal because someone else can't use it properly, I need you to tell me how that is the fault of the product? It is the wrong perspective to base judgement on IMO. I stand by my own personal example. 11, 35 to 40 yr old heads with original Iron and in many cases original tubes that do their job beautifully. I use a Weber Mass and that unit is perhaps the most important tool I have for live play. It gets that vintage tone to club levels.

[gOgIver]

Re: Marshall 1959SLP re-issue question

There is a host of other questions to ask beyond that one. The burden of application is on the user, not the tool. When used properly there should be no issue. That mantra applies to every tool on this planet. If you are passing on a deal because someone else can't use it properly, I need you to tell me how that is the fault of the product? It is the wrong perspective to base judgement on IMO. I stand by my own personal example. 11, 35 to 40 yr old heads with original Iron and in many cases original tubes that do their job beautifully. I use a Weber Mass and that unit is perhaps the most important tool I have for live play. It gets that vintage tone to club levels.

My point is why take the risk of buying an amp with burnt transformers caused by the improper use of an attenuator. Is your point that the Weber Mass used properly puts zero stress on the trans?

[kevlar3000]

Re: Marshall 1959SLP re-issue question

My point is why take the risk of buying an amp with burnt transformers caused by the improper use of an attenuator. Is your point that the Weber Mass used properly puts zero stress on the trans?

Unless you are overloading with an amp at higher wattage than the handleing of the Mass ( there are several versions up to 150 watts of power)then there is no stress on the iron. If you are looking at an amp with burnt iron it won't make sound in the first place.

[Kamanda~SD]

Re: Marshall 1959SLP re-issue question

I wish I could get a 1959LP re-issue.