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  • Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

    Hi! I wasn't here for a long time but always a good place to come back!
    I want to retube my amp. The important thing are the powertubes, coz i think
    they're already getting week and got some air (glowing blue while playing).
    What powertubes would you suggest me? I use this amp for harder stuff
    and play hardcore/metalcore/death metal stuff in my band.
    So I want a tight and a bit more agressive and modern sound!
    What pre tubes?
    Thank you
    RG 550 [JB | SingleSizedHole(TM) | V1 (to be replaced)]
    TS 7 (modded)
    Hot Rod 50+ XL
    Framus Dragon 4x12
    V-AMP II for practice

  • #2
    Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

    Your choices for power tubes in a Soldano are pretty limited because of the very high plate voltages (500V IIRC).

    I'd suggest 9th generation Chinese 12AX7s. They're hard to beat for modern high gain applications. They're impossible to beat for the price.
    Originally posted by LesStrat
    make sure that you own the gear, not vice versa.
    My Music

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    • #3
      Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

      Originally posted by aleclee
      Your choices for power tubes in a Soldano are pretty limited because of the very high plate voltages (500V IIRC).

      I'd suggest 9th generation Chinese 12AX7s. They're hard to beat for modern high gain applications. They're impossible to beat for the price.
      Thx!
      After the soldano faq every stock 5881 and 6l6 should work even without rebias!
      But I think rebias is better?!?
      9th generation? Are these this "SHUGUANG" ?
      RG 550 [JB | SingleSizedHole(TM) | V1 (to be replaced)]
      TS 7 (modded)
      Hot Rod 50+ XL
      Framus Dragon 4x12
      V-AMP II for practice

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      • #4
        Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

        btw current powertubes are sovtek (?) 5881, they are labeled with Soldano logo.
        RG 550 [JB | SingleSizedHole(TM) | V1 (to be replaced)]
        TS 7 (modded)
        Hot Rod 50+ XL
        Framus Dragon 4x12
        V-AMP II for practice

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        • #5
          Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

          bump
          RG 550 [JB | SingleSizedHole(TM) | V1 (to be replaced)]
          TS 7 (modded)
          Hot Rod 50+ XL
          Framus Dragon 4x12
          V-AMP II for practice

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

            groove tubes 12ax7 -C 9th gen worked great in my hot rod 50 and my avenger
            Wayne Rock-legend #143 Jazz/JB
            Suhr OD-50
            Suhr 4x12" Vintage 30's

            "Bradshaw" Moded Crybaby, Majik Box Rocket Fuel

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            • #7
              Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

              Originally posted by shred-dog
              groove tubes 12ax7 -C 9th gen worked great in my hot rod 50 and my avenger
              Thank you! Do have any clips?
              Do you mean this one: http://www.groovetubes.com/product.cfm?Product_ID=1158
              ?
              The warm round sounds a bit like smthng i don't want! I think it could be a bit "edgy".
              No matter this was already on the list of pre's to check out?


              But which powertubes??? Sovtek again? Or better JJ, EH,...?
              RG 550 [JB | SingleSizedHole(TM) | V1 (to be replaced)]
              TS 7 (modded)
              Hot Rod 50+ XL
              Framus Dragon 4x12
              V-AMP II for practice

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

                bump
                RG 550 [JB | SingleSizedHole(TM) | V1 (to be replaced)]
                TS 7 (modded)
                Hot Rod 50+ XL
                Framus Dragon 4x12
                V-AMP II for practice

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

                  I just got rid of my Soldano HR+XL, but Voodoo Amps put Ruby 6L6GC's in them and they sounded better than the stock Sovteks it came with.
                  PRS McCarty Korina loaded w/Godwoods
                  PRS Custom 22 loaded w/Dragon IIs
                  GJ2 Shredder loaded w/Habaneros
                  Rivera Knucklehead 55 Reverb/Blackstar HT-1/VHT Special Ultra 6
                  Avatar 2X12 loaded with V30 & G12H30
                  various pedals

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                  • #10
                    Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

                    thx so far, more opinions on power tubes?
                    RG 550 [JB | SingleSizedHole(TM) | V1 (to be replaced)]
                    TS 7 (modded)
                    Hot Rod 50+ XL
                    Framus Dragon 4x12
                    V-AMP II for practice

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

                      I looked on the tubes again and they're all original so i think I really have to change them:
                      Pre: Soldano 12AX7/ECC83 - 12AX7A
                      Power: Soldano 5881 - Sovtek 5881/6L6 WGC

                      So my question should I stay with Sovteks or change to JJ or SED or something?
                      Thanks
                      RG 550 [JB | SingleSizedHole(TM) | V1 (to be replaced)]
                      TS 7 (modded)
                      Hot Rod 50+ XL
                      Framus Dragon 4x12
                      V-AMP II for practice

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

                        You probably don't need to replace the preamp tubes. They last much, much longer than power tubes.
                        Originally posted by LesStrat
                        make sure that you own the gear, not vice versa.
                        My Music

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                        • #13
                          Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

                          Originally posted by aleclee
                          You probably don't need to replace the preamp tubes. They last much, much longer than power tubes.
                          i know ... but the tubes are now very old

                          Zerb mentioned that tubeampdoctor.com is a good place too buy tubes:
                          i felt in love with the description of these TAD 6L6GC:
                          AUSVERKAUFT - Wird leider nicht mehr produziert! ersetzt durch 6L6GCM-STR Redbase   TAD 6L6GC-STR   BLACKPLATE RCA-Style  …


                          I'm not sure where to rebias the amp.
                          Here is just a small store... and it don't know an amp tech.

                          still not sure which powertubes!?!!
                          Last edited by Marcel; 12-19-2005, 02:42 PM.
                          RG 550 [JB | SingleSizedHole(TM) | V1 (to be replaced)]
                          TS 7 (modded)
                          Hot Rod 50+ XL
                          Framus Dragon 4x12
                          V-AMP II for practice

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                          • #14
                            Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

                            My hot rod has sovtek 5881s, and I haven't had a lot of time with it to start messing around. It also sounds great, so I'm not inclined to futz about just yet. I may try lower gain pres at some point, though.

                            I talked to the previous owner and he said he got best results out of sovteks compared to the JJs and GTs he tried. Sometimes amps are like that. For example, my amp tech swears that modern mesas don't sound right unless they're running chinese tubes.
                            Originally posted by Jolly
                            ...but then again, I'm so deaf I can't even hear myself fart.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Tube suggestion for hr50+xl needed

                              hm there was a soldano forum, but i lost the link...
                              RG 550 [JB | SingleSizedHole(TM) | V1 (to be replaced)]
                              TS 7 (modded)
                              Hot Rod 50+ XL
                              Framus Dragon 4x12
                              V-AMP II for practice

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