New speakers for Carvin Belair

[ehdwuld]

hmm now I got this

After consulting two other associates and searching for any records, we concluded we did not make the Carvin’s you are seeking.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

Do you think they may have read my other post?

[ehdwuld]

I'm kind of surprised that your reply took so long and there wasn't a direct OEM equivalent.

well it is the Holiday season
and they do have similar offerings
just not direct equivalent

I believe the material and size have have changed

I can find something
think something in the Legend or Patriot series should be close

[idsnowdog]

I'm kind of surprised that your reply took so long and there wasn't a direct OEM equivalent.

[Mincer]

Well, that sounds like a good response. I wasn't aware that Eminence made Carvin's speakers.

[ehdwuld]

Below is the response from Eminence:

"The speaker you have was indeed made for Carvin by Eminence Speaker.

Due to it’s age, we do not use the cone made in that speaker for any of our current models. This is also due to how the speaker was made specifically for Carvin, and not a standard consumer speaker.

The only 16” OHM speaker that has a 1.5” voice coil the same as your Carvin is the Legend 10516, a 10”. That one speaker is the only 16 OHM with a 1.5” voice coil, but we have many 16 OHM drivers that have a larger coil with a slightly different sound. If you would like, a description of desired tone quality and music styles would help us make an accurate recommendation for your Carvin upgrade."

[ehdwuld]

well I have three extension cabinets and with
Eminence designed Jet City Speaker in an open back cab 16 ohm
WGS Veteran 30 in an open back cab 16 ohm
EHX 12 VR 75 in a closed back cab 8 ohm

they all sound good
the closed back cab does make the EHX a bit middy

[Dudeman7]

Had a chance to play my Carvin Vintage 33 with the Governor along with the extension cab loaded with a Wizard today. Those two speakers pair very well with each other.

Whether clean (which the Vintage series Carvins do very well) or with various levels of OD, distortion and fuzz, I was unable to get a sound I didn't like out of the amp.

The Wizard really fattens up the Governor and the Governor fills in the mids that are lacking a little from the Wizard on its own. Kind of a "none of the bad, more of the good" situation.

I'm really looking forward to hear how they sound together once they are broken in properly. So far, highly recommend for these amps.

(Sorry for the double post.)

[Dudeman7]

The Eminence Governor is also supposed to be their take on the Vintage 30. Sounds similar to a V30 to me but the Governor is more articulate and doesn't have that harsh peak in the upper midrange.

IMO, the Governor and the Veteran 30 are good matches for this amp's tonal characteristics.

[ehdwuld]

I just got a WGS Veteran 30. Their take on a Vintage 30. The tone is smoother and warmer than a Vintage 30, but still has alot of the sound and personality of a Celestion Vintage 30. I like it.

yeah I got one of those as well

I feel there are a lot of the V30 style speakers for good reason

Warehouse Veteran 30 is great sounding speaker

[Lewguitar]

I just got a WGS Veteran 30. Their take on a Vintage 30. The tone is smoother and warmer than a Vintage 30, but still has alot of the sound and personality of a Celestion Vintage 30. I like it.

[ehdwuld]

while I wait on a reply from Eminence

I saw these on MF

the Electro-Harmonix 12TS8 30W
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...89823000001001

the Electro-Harmonix 12VR 75W
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...89821000001002

I have one of the VR 8 ohms at the house and it does have the strong mid range of V30

If i get one each in the 16 ohm I think they would pair nicely in the Belair

and both would be about the same as one Eminence

[ArtieToo]

I have Eminence Wheelhouse 12's in my 2x12 it is probably my best sounding cabinet.

That's good to know. I bought one a few years ago when it was on sale, but haven't installed it yet. Now, maybe I will.

[ehdwuld]

I will post their reply in its entirety

[Dudeman7]

I am in the process of pairing speakers with a Carvin Vintage 33, your Belair's little brother.

So far, I have settled on the Eminence Governor (I'm still breaking it in) for the combo and I have a matching extension cab on the way. I'm planning on putting an Eminence Wizard in that.

The Governor and Wizard seem to be a well liked pair for EL84 amps and should help to open up the tone of Channel 2.

It's only been a few days but the Governor is leagues better than the stock Carvin speaker. Mine had the same 100-watt 8-ohm speaker as yours. The Governor retains the excellent clean tone of Channel 1 and has a lot more sensitivity and character when really pushed.

I'm interested to hear what Eminence recommends for you.

[ehdwuld]

I would send an email to Eminence. They have been very helpful when I have asked them about what OEM speakers match their current catalog.

awesome idea
email sent