Anyone have any opinions/experiences about this amp? I'm seriously thinking about ordering one. I've also been looking at Bogner Shiva and VHT 50/ST as alternatives, can you say anything about them, compared to the Einstein as well if possible? Thanks!
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My opinion is that it's a bad idea to spend that much money on an amp you've never played.
I don't care who says they like it and don't even care what clips sound like. Until you know how it sounds/feels with your guitar and your touch, it's a huge risk to assume that it's gonna work for you.
Also, it would be much easier to offer suggestions for alternatives if you shared more about what tones you're looking for and what kind of music you play.Originally posted by LesStratmake sure that you own the gear, not vice versa.
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Originally posted by alecleeMy opinion is that it's a bad idea to spend that much money on an amp you've never played.
I don't care who says they like it and don't even care what clips sound like. Until you know how it sounds/feels with your guitar and your touch, it's a huge risk to assume that it's gonna work for you.
Also, it would be much easier to offer suggestions for alternatives if you shared more about what tones you're looking for and what kind of music you play.
I thought that the Einstein is such a new model that there really even ain't any at the shelves about anywhere... it would be quite easy to unload too if it wasn't my style.
I play weird rock, style such as Nick Cave + PJ Harvey + Mannhai + older Danzig. They have some of the tones I'm after too, but naturally I'm after a bit extra and a bit more me. A great clean that's pushable to a slight grit, a lighter gain and a smooth high gain for rarer distortion/lead parts. Dynamics, clarity and great "musical" mids are what I'm after.
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Originally posted by alecleeYou might consider a Koch Multitone or Powertone
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I loved the Einstein. I think it's the latest in tone and sounds! It's revolutionary and there is good reason why its all the rage among pros from Bon Jovi to Neal Schon.
That being said, I would use the Einstein for heavier sounds and versatility. If you want PURE TONE and a gorgeous rich Marshall-y sound with sweetness it IS THE SHIVA hands down! MY FAVE AMP! I do detest the effects loop, and I do not think it is as great as a plexi with pedals, but unless I want HEAVY METAL CHUNK, I would take the SHIVA. If you want more saturation then its the Diezels all the way!1973 Les Paul Standard
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what's the deal with the Einstein is it sort of a stripped down herbert or a whole other animal?
-Mike
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Originally posted by OlinMusicI loved the Einstein. I think it's the latest in tone and sounds! It's revolutionary and there is good reason why its all the rage among pros from Bon Jovi to Neal Schon.
That being said, I would use the Einstein for heavier sounds and versatility. If you want PURE TONE and a gorgeous rich Marshall-y sound with sweetness it IS THE SHIVA hands down! MY FAVE AMP! I do detest the effects loop, and I do not think it is as great as a plexi with pedals, but unless I want HEAVY METAL CHUNK, I would take the SHIVA. If you want more saturation then its the Diezels all the way!
What's the deal with the Shiva loop? I read something about having to use a certain kind of cable and etc. but I thought that the problems were curable? I'd like to use a few effects every now and then, and if the loop will really give me problems that is a big minus for the Shiva. Otherwise it does look great, even if it isn't as packed with boosts/pots/eqs etc. like the VHT and the Diezel.
Thanks again, cheers!There are two kinds of people in this world that go around beardless—boys and women, and I am neither one
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Originally posted by XSSIVEwhat's the deal with the Einstein is it sort of a stripped down herbert or a whole other animal?
-MikeThere are two kinds of people in this world that go around beardless—boys and women, and I am neither one
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Originally posted by alecleeMy opinion is that it's a bad idea to spend that much money on an amp you've never played.
I don't care who says they like it and don't even care what clips sound like. Until you know how it sounds/feels with your guitar and your touch, it's a huge risk to assume that it's gonna work for you.
Also, it would be much easier to offer suggestions for alternatives if you shared more about what tones you're looking for and what kind of music you play.There are two kinds of people in this world that go around beardless—boys and women, and I am neither one
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Ive head several good things and read several good reviews about the VH4 from Diesel. Alot of people like its channel 4 for the lead tone the best out of all there amps. The problem is I have never played one myself and so I cannot personaly recomend it to you. I guess just look for clips if nothing else and hope to hell there acurate enough.
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Originally posted by philthisIve head several good things and read several good reviews about the VH4 from Diesel. Alot of people like its channel 4 for the lead tone the best out of all there amps. The problem is I have never played one myself and so I cannot personaly recomend it to you. I guess just look for clips if nothing else and hope to hell there acurate enough.
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I think the cleans on the DIEZEL are nice but not phenomenal. They are in the "hey that's great for a high gain amp!" The Shiva gets a clean that makes you almost go F*** let's play a Jazz gig. The Reverb is lush.
The DIEZEL has its own brand of fat, high gain. It's kinda like uhhhhhhhhh crap how do I say this? It's got an original sound. FAT, yet not mushy, NEVER BUZZSAW, powerful, VERY CHUNKY. I only criticize that I hear it as more saturated than say the sparkly crunch of a JTM45, should you want that old AC DC sound. If you want that level of freedom, go Bogner Ecstasy. If you want modern that can play in the new music vein while holding a harmonically rich classic tone - go DIEZEL. They are such different amps - so you have to decide by what you want in responsiveness and style of music.
The Shiva lacks modern features such as switchable loops etc. midi blah blah blah1973 Les Paul Standard
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Originally posted by OlinMusicI think the cleans on the DIEZEL are nice but not phenomenal. They are in the "hey that's great for a high gain amp!" The Shiva gets a clean that makes you almost go F*** let's play a Jazz gig. The Reverb is lush.
The DIEZEL has its own brand of fat, high gain. It's kinda like uhhhhhhhhh crap how do I say this? It's got an original sound. FAT, yet not mushy, NEVER BUZZSAW, powerful, VERY CHUNKY. I only criticize that I hear it as more saturated than say the sparkly crunch of a JTM45, should you want that old AC DC sound. If you want that level of freedom, go Bogner Ecstasy. If you want modern that can play in the new music vein while holding a harmonically rich classic tone - go DIEZEL. They are such different amps - so you have to decide by what you want in responsiveness and style of music.
The Shiva lacks modern features such as switchable loops etc. midi blah blah blah
A personal sound is great, I'd like a bit of a departure from standard marshalls and fenders. I'm not that much into AC/DC so I probably won't mind that! It sounds great and looks great, and all those modern bells and whistles do mean a bit to me.
Thanks again, do let me know if you're ever around and I'll buy you a beer! And no watery soap variety, some quality czech or finnish stuff! Maybe even both!There are two kinds of people in this world that go around beardless—boys and women, and I am neither one
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