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  • #16
    Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

    As you add gain on the amp, it's best to decrease the wetness of a delay, so it's a lot more subtle. Although analog delays with a lot of headroom sound the best, I still get a good result with the Line 6 DL-4. I just mix it in very subtle.
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    • #17
      Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

      but didnt Van Halen play with the delay and all the effects after the amp??

      i will have to see for myself i guess.
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      • #18
        Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

        so Joneser it will sound good in the front??

        you use all your effects in the front?
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        • #19
          Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

          any other ideas?
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          • #20
            Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

            Here's an idea:

            1) try the pedal out & if it sucks, don't use it.

            2) OR.........listen to the advice already given.


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            • #21
              Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

              You can use a delay in front, as long as you play clean or use a OD pedal in front of the delay for dist. Amp distortion and delay is just gonna end up a MESS!
              it depends on what sorta distortion, cleanish crunch can still work with delay in front if u don't have to much bass (listen to U2's early stuff thats 2 memory man's in stereo into 2 cranked vox's) but most distortion doesn't work after delay
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              • #22
                Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

                i use a delay in front of my amp and it sounds just fine. give it a shot and tell us how it works out.
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                • #23
                  Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

                  Putting delay in front of your amp is usually only a problem if your using the preamp of your amp to get a fair amount of distortion. The distortion compresses the signal, and if your delay is in front of it you'll get tons of delay comapred to how much you're getting in your clean channel. I suppose the use of 2 delays, one for clean, one for dirty, would be a solution, though you'd be stomping a lot! A delay pedal with presets like a DL4 or dd-20 might make this easier.

                  Stealing a path from the reverb tank is a good idea...a tech could add an FX loop for a relatively small amount of dough...

                  Mike

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                  • #24
                    Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

                    this is what i found from amptone http://www.amptone.com/g074.htm


                    " For clear, professional Tone, echo-derived effects should be mixed in "through the board" -- that is, after the power tubes and guitar speaker. This avoids unmusical muddiness and beats. For the clearest saturation Tone, echo should not be placed before *any* saturation, distortion, or clipping stage, whether clipping occurs in the preamp tubes or power tubes."
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                    • #25
                      Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

                      ask to a tecnician to make a path between the pre amp and power amp, so u can put the delay
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                      • #26
                        Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

                        well said ..

                        I just pluck in and use. I didn't bother about the FX loop .. =|
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                        • #27
                          Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

                          Originally posted by tone?
                          this is what i found from amptone http://www.amptone.com/g074.htm


                          " For clear, professional Tone, echo-derived effects should be mixed in "through the board" -- that is, after the power tubes and guitar speaker. This avoids unmusical muddiness and beats. For the clearest saturation Tone, echo should not be placed before *any* saturation, distortion, or clipping stage, whether clipping occurs in the preamp tubes or power tubes."

                          As a producer I know there are many ways to get good sounds - so any article that states there is only "one" way to do things is wrong.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

                            As a producer I know there are many ways to get good sounds - so any article that states there is only "one" way to do things is wrong.

                            i will definately try it out to get it over with
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                            • #29
                              Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

                              Go for it.
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                              • #30
                                Re: Any way to put a Delay in an amp without an FX loop?

                                Originally posted by tone?
                                but didnt Van Halen play with the delay and all the effects after the amp??
                                Yes, he did. The only things out front where the Phase 90 and maybe an EQ. The Echoplex was after the dummy load (which was after the variac). The Flanger was also in the chain after the dummy load, or between the dummy load and external H&H power amps. By using the dummy load, the Marshall became a pre-amp for the whole rig.

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