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  • #16
    Originally posted by Securb View Post
    Tech 21 or someone should dilute that tackle box down to a 4-knob stomp. Bass - Mids - Treble - Drive and a three-way toggle for VOX, Marshall and Fender. I would buy one in a second.
    Isn’t that kind of what the SansAmp was?

    Interestingly enough, Bruce Egnater is kicking off a new tube amp, three channels, Fender, Vox and modded Marshall tone stacks as channels, I wonder if each channel is a full representation of each circuit.

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    Oh no.....


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    • #17
      Originally posted by PFDarkside View Post

      Isn’t that kind of what the SansAmp was?
      It is exactly what it was but IIRC there was no setting for VOX, I love my Tech 21 Liverpool they do VOX right.


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      • #18
        Originally posted by GuitarStv View Post

        That was the whole point of the video. He showed that the tone stack is really what you're hearing when you're playing different amps.






        LOTS MORE GOING ON IN A 100 WATT MARSHALL THAN JUST A FEW RESISTORS AND WIPERS OF A TONE STACK. THATS NOT THE WHOLE POINT.

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        • #19
          How about something going through a Jet City Picovalve?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by JMP/HBE View Post





            LOTS MORE GOING ON IN A 100 WATT MARSHALL THAN JUST A FEW RESISTORS AND WIPERS OF A TONE STACK. THATS NOT THE WHOLE POINT.
            Of course there's a lot more going on that the tone stack, nobody said otherwise. The point of the video was that the tone stack makes most of the difference that you can hear.
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            • #21
              Did we really need an 18 minute video to know that ?
              Guitar tone woods, speakers, tubes, strings, FX, cabinets, plectrums, pickups and many other factors all have a bearing on tone.
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              • #22
                they do, and i do get the point of the video, but there is so much more that goes into picking one amp over another than just tone. the feel of an amp is terribly important to me, which is why i havent warmed up to modelers.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Securb View Post
                  Tech 21 or someone should dilute that tackle box down to a 4-knob stomp. Bass - Mids - Treble - Drive and a three-way toggle for VOX, Marshall and Fender. I would buy one in a second.
                  Not a stomp, but the PSA-1 rack was exactly that. And it had 50 presets that you could configure as a round robin cycle and roll through. I had mine set to do VOX, Tweed Clean, Plexi. The Fly Rig would be there if it just had VOX on it also. Maybe that's the answer - FlyRig with a Liverpool.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jeremy View Post
                    they do, and i do get the point of the video, but there is so much more that goes into picking one amp over another than just tone. the feel of an amp is terribly important to me, which is why i havent warmed up to modelers.






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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by GuitarStv View Post

                      Of course there's a lot more going on that the tone stack, nobody said otherwise. The point of the video was that the tone stack makes most of the difference that you can hear.
                      I haven't bothered watching the video, but that's going to be very amp design dependent. I can name amps that have identical tone stacks but sound different (5150 and Recto are an obvious choice; 2203/2204 vs 1959/1987 is another).

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                        • #27
                          But where's the haunting midz ?

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                          • #28
                            Tone in dem fingaz
                            “For me, when everything goes wrong – that’s when adventure starts.” Yvonne Chouinard

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                            • #29
                              Tone is in the enlightenment








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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by PFDarkside View Post

                                Isn’t that kind of what the SansAmp was?

                                Interestingly enough, Bruce Egnater is kicking off a new tube amp, three channels, Fender, Vox and modded Marshall tone stacks as channels, I wonder if each channel is a full representation of each circuit.

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                                Groove Tubes did that about a decade earlier with the Trio Preamp (BF Fender, Tweed Bassman, Marshall). It was used by Jerry Garcia.
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