Now THIS is how I like my amps built!

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

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Heh but PCB

[mrid]

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Heh but PCB

I'm fine with that as long as the power tubes are chassis mounted.

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

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Yeah, but with PCB it really depends on what quality they have used for it.
Soundwise it really means nothing, it is just easier to repair a PTP amp, and being a Hiwatt owner one gets to agree with the Military spec construction, mine has lasted quite a few years now, and the work is formidable, they only made 40 amps a month back then in the glory days.
Well Bogner use good power and output trafo's and the filtering looks good, the PCB has neat connections and reasonable thick paths for the current.
Don't like that the preamp tubes are mounted on the PCB though.
Minor thing.

[Jeff_H]

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Jeez, that Jeff Seal mod isn't a mod, it's a rebuild! Nice! Looks so much easier to service with that lug board and bigger components.

Yeah....it's pretty much gutted, and it sounds so much better! I got the entire original PC board and all componenets back, and it can be re-installed and back to stock should I ever decide to sell it....which will be NEVER.

There is nothing wrong with PC board construction as several have stated, provided that the tubes are chassis mounted (my opinion only) and that the PC board is of high quality and all connections are well shielded. Bogner, Mesa and others have proven that. Hell even my JCM 800 in it's stock form had all the tubes chassis mounted....that even says something about Marshall from as recently as the mid 80's. PTP is easier to work on for quick repairs....it all just comes down to the quality of compents and the care taken in the building process. I am sure a fan of PTP...but I wouldn't snub a Bogner....thats for sure.

[Gearjoneser]

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Reinholdt Bogner is one of those guys that knows amps forward and backwards.
Then, like an audio genious, he figured out how to design a circuit that still retains the beauty of a handbuilt amp, but most of that circuitry controls the vast number of features. Usually, bells and whistles cut into the overall tone, but he figured out a way to have the features NOT harm the signal path. I don't know how he does it, but the end result is an amp that chews through the voltage and spits out great tone.

[some_dude]

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Amp Porn

Some good and bad examples of PTP included.

Zwengel


VOX AC30HW


VOX AC30 (Circa 1963)


Home Made Amp


Home Made 5E3 Twin Delux


Matchless Phoenix 35 Head


Two Rock (Ruby I think)


Home Made Amp


Scum Bag Amps


Pete Cage rewired Bandmaster circuit in Blues Deluxe


Hiwatt DR504

[Jeff_H]

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BTT. Lets see some more apms construction pic guys....!!!!!

[PUCKBOY99]

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HIWATT BIACROWN CUSTOM 50 (DR504)

[PUCKBOY99]

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Amp Porn

Hiwatt (not sure what model)

That would be a Hylight Hiwatt DR504....BEAUTIFUL!!!

[Gearjoneser]

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Look at every detail in this Matchless Chassis. All the components are suspended between lugs and all the bare wire is covered. Imagine doing all this by hand!



Also, notice the lightbulbs, which operate on their own circuit. That's what's used to light up the dials on the front of the chassis. There's a separate lightbox attached to the cabinet to light up the MATCHLESS logo.

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

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^Yup that is right, awesome amps....they outclass anything else that is posted here in neatness and construction...
P'S it was the Hiwatt's I was commenting.

[Jeff Seal]

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Nothing I have ever seen will outclass the old Hiwatt's and Traynor's....
even mine look like disaster's compared to these......

Jeff Seal

[7th Hell]

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Do you guys think it's wrong that I was sportin' wood while looking at these pics? Amazing sh!t!