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  • About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

    Hey all,

    I just bought an Epiphone Casino and I was planning on putting a Bigsby on it (not unlike George Harrison ) . But upon owning for a week or so now, it seems the bridge thats on it isn't doing a very good job (it's buzzing on the G and B strings) and it just feels cheap... So I figured I'd replace it.

    Now I jsut wanted to know what model Bigsby would fit the Casino and how much work would it be to replace my current standard tail piece.

    Also what's a high quality tune-o-matic bridge?

    Peace and thanks! :afro:
    Fender Stratocaster - EMG 81/85 (camo)
    Ibanez RG550 - Invader (b)
    Taylor 110E Acoustic
    Traynor YCV 20
    Brice 5 String Jazz Bass

  • #2
    Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

    You'll need a B7 Bigs for your Casino (sweet axe BTW)...Tonepros is really the best bridge design and upgrade most use. Wiggle on...

    Gibson KS 336, LP Standard, Special and Customs
    Bogner, Orange, Tech 21 and Fender amps
    Celestion speakers
    Duncan, Bare Knuckle, WCR and Gibson pups
    Too many pedals....

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    • #3
      Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

      Thanks for the quick reply!

      OK this seems to be what I'm looking for. I just wanted to make sure that this particular tonepros model is compatible with the bigsby trem as I saw quite a few different models.
      Fender Stratocaster - EMG 81/85 (camo)
      Ibanez RG550 - Invader (b)
      Taylor 110E Acoustic
      Traynor YCV 20
      Brice 5 String Jazz Bass

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      • #4
        Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

        You'll have to verify as some Epis (imports) use metric stuff. It looks like the post size is a factor, but I do know Epi pup rings are wider...not certain about the bridge. Some others who have done the bridge upgrade will know.

        Gibson KS 336, LP Standard, Special and Customs
        Bogner, Orange, Tech 21 and Fender amps
        Celestion speakers
        Duncan, Bare Knuckle, WCR and Gibson pups
        Too many pedals....

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        • #5
          Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

          The link doesnt work for me but make sure that when you do put in the bigsby your gonna want a roller bridge or else the strings wont move properly and get stuck on the saddles. Schaller make a good roller bridge.
          "And be grateful. Our scars have the power to remind us that the past was real." Hannibal Lecter

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          • #6
            Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

            Are you refering to a roller 'nut' or is there a roller bridge?

            Gibson KS 336, LP Standard, Special and Customs
            Bogner, Orange, Tech 21 and Fender amps
            Celestion speakers
            Duncan, Bare Knuckle, WCR and Gibson pups
            Too many pedals....

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            • #7
              Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

              Roller bridges. Heres a link to the ones stewmac is selling I know they sell them other places aswel like universal gems but stewmac have good descriptions and pics

              http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,...er_Bridge.html
              "And be grateful. Our scars have the power to remind us that the past was real." Hannibal Lecter

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              • #8
                Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

                Thanks...those look good and would do a nice job with the Bigsby unit. Anyone used this bridge yet?

                Gibson KS 336, LP Standard, Special and Customs
                Bogner, Orange, Tech 21 and Fender amps
                Celestion speakers
                Duncan, Bare Knuckle, WCR and Gibson pups
                Too many pedals....

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                • #9
                  Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

                  I think a few people over at mimf and projectguitar have.
                  "And be grateful. Our scars have the power to remind us that the past was real." Hannibal Lecter

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                  • #10
                    Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

                    Are you sure you want a B7? Those have mounting screws that screw into the top of the guitar body. They work well for solidbodies and semi-hollows, but your Casino is a full hollowbody. You should look into the B3 instead, designed for hollowbody guitars. It only mounts at the strap pin end of the body and rests on top of the body instead of screwing into it.

                    Those roller bridges should work well.

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                    • #11
                      Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

                      ALF is right, you need the B3 instead of the B7 if you have a full hollow.
                      Ain't nothin' but a G thang, baby.

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                      • #12
                        Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

                        Here's the text that went beside the pic I posted...did they 'screw' up?
                        Genuine Bigsby B7 Vibrato System for Thin Line Acoustic Guitars (chrome)- As used on the Epiphone Casino played by George Harrison.

                        Genuine Bigsby B7 - Chrome
                        Price: $125.00 USD each
                        Continental US Shipping: $4 USD each
                        Alaska, Hawaii and International Shipping: Fax or eMail
                        Part # NCM-432

                        Gibson KS 336, LP Standard, Special and Customs
                        Bogner, Orange, Tech 21 and Fender amps
                        Celestion speakers
                        Duncan, Bare Knuckle, WCR and Gibson pups
                        Too many pedals....

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                        • #13
                          Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

                          I got my info from Elderly Instruments,

                          BIGSBY B3 NICKEL TREMOLO Hand made original "Kalamazoo Line". The B3 unit works best on thin hollowbody archtops such as GuildŽ Starfire III's, Gretsch 6120 Nashville's & others that use a floating style bridge. It can also be used on some solid body archtops that use the same style bridge such as a Gretsch 6129T Silver Jet. The only holes that need be drilled are the four at the bottom of the guitar where the hinge attaches to the body.
                          on order, expected arrival date unknown
                          B3 .. list $140.00 ours $105.00 buy
                          Here's what they say about the B7. Notice they say hollowbody, but all the examples given are semi-hollow. I'd just worry about attaching mounting screws to the top of a hollowbody guitar with nothing underneath to provide support.

                          BIGSBY B7 NICKEL TREMOLO Hand made original "Kalamazoo Line". The B7 model is best suited for thin archtop hollowbodies & solid body electrics such as Gibson ES335's, Les Pauls, Heritage H-535's, Epiphone Sheratons, Ally Cats, Dot's, GuildŽ Bluesbird, etc... that have a stud mounted Tune-O-Matic style bridge. These units have the roller retaining bar to give you the angle over the bridge that is needed. Requires two holes to be drilled into the top of the guitar & four on the bottom where the hinge attaches to the body. All mounting hardware is included.
                          B7 .. list $150.00 ours $112.50 buy

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                          • #14
                            Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

                            I hear ya ALF...notice they both mention the B7 for the Epi. If it were my axe, I'd opt for no screws through the top, BUT the B3 is for a floating bridge favored on the hollow bodies vs the B7 'made' for the TOM bridge. So unless someone has used a B3 on a Sheriton without any issues I'd be a little leery...there MUST be a reason why they have 2 different yet similar units and specific model recommendations.

                            Gibson KS 336, LP Standard, Special and Customs
                            Bogner, Orange, Tech 21 and Fender amps
                            Celestion speakers
                            Duncan, Bare Knuckle, WCR and Gibson pups
                            Too many pedals....

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                            • #15
                              Re: About Bigsbys and Tune-o-matics

                              If you still need a bridge, I have a Gibson ABR-1 or whatever sittin' around. Used to be in my strat... I'm not sure if it'd work, but if it would, you're welcome to it for around 30-40 dollars.

                              edit: not to confuse anyone, but it's a tun-o-matic, I have the tailpiece, too.
                              You can get a suprisingly good country guitar tone out of a Marshall Halfstack.

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