Ok, lookin for opinions here. Now, assuming that they are hooked up correctly ( with SPEAKER cables and the correct impedance LOL I've heard stories of guys using guitar cables and the wrong impedance ) Is the Scholz pwr soak still a good attenuator ???? What would be some advantages of the THD Hot Plate or the Weber ??? Are there any serious disadvantages to the Scholz??? Is one any "safer" than the others ( in other words, is one easier on the amps components??? ) Does one provide for better tone over the others??? Just lookin for advice from those of you that use these . I know the THD and Weber come in individual impedances , and the Scholz is selectable between 4, 8, and 16 ohms. All replies and tidbits of info are welcome. Thanks !!! ps. The Amp it will be used on is a stock 1982 JCM 800 2204
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Re: Scholz soak vs. THD, Weber
Originally posted by 59paulOk, lookin for opinions here. Now, assuming that they are hooked up correctly ( with SPEAKER cables and the correct impedance LOL I've heard stories of guys using guitar cables and the wrong impedance ) Is the Scholz pwr soak still a good attenuator ???? What would be some advantages of the THD Hot Plate or the Weber ??? Are there any serious disadvantages to the Scholz??? Is one any "safer" than the others ( in other words, is one easier on the amps components??? ) Does one provide for better tone over the others??? Just lookin for advice from those of you that use these . I know the THD and Weber come in individual impedances , and the Scholz is selectable between 4, 8, and 16 ohms. All replies and tidbits of info are welcome. Thanks !!! ps. The Amp it will be used on is a stock 1982 JCM 800 2204
JohnAmps: 66 Fender BF Pro Reverb Combo,1973 50 Watt Marshall Head,Marshall 4x12 A/V Cab,Vox ToneLab LE,Vox VTH Valvetronix 120 Head,Vox AD 2x12 Cab,Roland Cube 20X
Guitars: Several Stratocasters,2 Fender Telecasters,Gibson SG Standard,Tokai Love Rock Les Paul,Dean Acoustic.
Pickups: SD SSL2,SSL5,Twangbanger,Antiquity Surfers,59N,Seth Lover N/B,Dimarzio Fred,Dimarzio VPAF N,Fender Fat 50s,Fralin SP43 Bridge,Brobucker,Antiquity Texas Hot.
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Re: Scholz soak vs. THD, Weber
Originally posted by 59paulCool. Thanks, John. These are the kind of things I need to know.
JohnAmps: 66 Fender BF Pro Reverb Combo,1973 50 Watt Marshall Head,Marshall 4x12 A/V Cab,Vox ToneLab LE,Vox VTH Valvetronix 120 Head,Vox AD 2x12 Cab,Roland Cube 20X
Guitars: Several Stratocasters,2 Fender Telecasters,Gibson SG Standard,Tokai Love Rock Les Paul,Dean Acoustic.
Pickups: SD SSL2,SSL5,Twangbanger,Antiquity Surfers,59N,Seth Lover N/B,Dimarzio Fred,Dimarzio VPAF N,Fender Fat 50s,Fralin SP43 Bridge,Brobucker,Antiquity Texas Hot.
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Re: Scholz soak vs. THD, Weber
The Weber can be ordered with multiple impedance switching. I have a 50w MASS that has a 4/8 ohm switch. I know Ted will put every combo he has on one for like $20 extra. You can get 2/4/8/16 ohm capabilities from one unit.
The MASS is a great sounding attenuator, I highly recommend them. I've got a bunch of clips recorded with a MASS if you care to check it outLast edited by Alvin Lee Fan; 03-27-2004, 09:33 PM.
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Cool, cool. I'm takin all this in, guy's. Best way I know of to educate myself on these . Keep em comin, I'm listenin to y'all. Thanks !!!Only The Strong Survive
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Originally posted by mridThe power soak is the oldest attenuator of the ones you mentioned, and, IMO, now obsolete.
JohnAmps: 66 Fender BF Pro Reverb Combo,1973 50 Watt Marshall Head,Marshall 4x12 A/V Cab,Vox ToneLab LE,Vox VTH Valvetronix 120 Head,Vox AD 2x12 Cab,Roland Cube 20X
Guitars: Several Stratocasters,2 Fender Telecasters,Gibson SG Standard,Tokai Love Rock Les Paul,Dean Acoustic.
Pickups: SD SSL2,SSL5,Twangbanger,Antiquity Surfers,59N,Seth Lover N/B,Dimarzio Fred,Dimarzio VPAF N,Fender Fat 50s,Fralin SP43 Bridge,Brobucker,Antiquity Texas Hot.
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I haven't tried any of the others, but I recently got a Weber mini-MASS for use with a Blues Jr. The basic design of the Weber just made sense to me - it's an actual speaker without the cone.
My only knit is that I paid extra for the "treble boost" switch. It doesn't do anything noticeable above "4" which is ok, but if I max out the master volume and crank the MASS down to "3" or less I still lose too much treble even with the switch on. (The switch does reduce the treble loss some)
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I have a hotplate and In my opinion it is one of the best out there. The ability to boost both bass and treble to compensate for those two frequencies, which get robbed under heavy attenuation, is worth the higher price of the hotplate. Couple that with a built in noise reducer (kills a little hiss, but not all) and you've got a great attenuator. One thing to keep in mind is that you still have to push air for them to sound good. Wisper volumes on any of the attenuators will leave you with a dull muted tone. The only negative I can think of with the hotplate is that you can't change loads like you can with the Weber. Stick wiht THD or Weber and you will be happy.
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