Schaller Locking Tuners vs Fender Schaller Locking Tuners?

[Securb]

Re: Schaller Locking Tuners vs Fender Schaller Locking Tuners?

I have the Ping Fenders that came on a MIM neck I bought. They are great, very smooth and zero maintenance.

[Zombiwoof]

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I had Fender US Shop make me a 70s CBS neck 2 years ago and these locking machine heads came with the neck -not sure if they are ping or not -they are very good -but not quite as dazzling feeling as my favorite Sperzells or Grovers -but absolutely up for gigging every night and nothing you would ever consider changing -even if they were imports by PING.

Is there a way to tell without loosening the machine head?

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Ping hardware usually has their logo on it, it's PW (Ping Works) in a little circle. Not sure if they have the logo on OEM hardware like that made for Fender but it would be on the bottom.
Al

[Ayrton]

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The “PW” is on the underside. You have to remove the tuner to see it.

[Tone Meister]

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Never drilled a hole
Never had any problems

You guys are making it harder than it needs to be

Small screws and nails do not require pilot holes

This is the way myths get started

Please remind me to never let you near any of my guitars.

[devastone]

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Definitely drill pilot holes, hard maple is, well, hard, and it can take a lot of force to drive those rounded pins into it, I would almost be more afraid of damaging the tuners if I cranked on them hard enough to drive the pins into the maple, at least on the tuners I have installed.

And yes, in my younger, more rushed, "I don't need a pilot hole" days, I have also broken small wood screws in necks.

[metalchurch79]

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My experiences I spoke of was when I was a little girl just barely out of school. I also split a neck heel that was already pilot drilled but just one size under what it shouldve been..
Ive even seen necks that split years later from tuner retainer screws because i guess the wood dried and shrank or the pilot holes were too small and that cause it, or both.

[Chistopher]

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Does anyone here have anything against the Ping tuners? I've never had a problem with them, but I hear some people have.

[Mincer]

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I've never had a problem with Ping tuners. Actually most tuners these days are really good, unless it is a super-cheap guitar.

[Ayrton]

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Does anyone here have anything against the Ping tuners? I've never had a problem with them, but I hear some people have.

Are they on the same level as Schaller, Gotoh, or Hipshot, no but Ping products are not junk. People like to pooh-pooh them because they are a Korean manufacturer.

Ironic considering Leo used the cheapest tuners he could find (Kluson) and nipped the ends off.

[Jacew]

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Does anyone here have anything against the Ping tuners? I've never had a problem with them, but I hear some people have.

Technically no. But I didn't like Pings in Squier because they were too quick and loose for easily tune plain strings accurately.

I use Wilkinson EZ-Loks mostly, because they we're cheap (I got bunch of those for 20 eur a set couple of years ago) and have solid feel with slow rotation. They also keep tuning every bit as well as real lockers.