VINTAGE LPC.....WITH A COOL STORY

[JMP/HBE]

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Cool guitar, looks like a good find. A couple of questions, is the Kahler reversible? Do you think the screws in the headstock for the locking system are the reason for the headstock break?

Reversable like in pull up ? Most Kahlers are on a one way spring loaded cam. And tons of Gibson'd break the headstock with no trem.

[JB_From_Hell]

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Is there documentation of the factory Kahler installation?

If it was actually done by Gibson, it must have been on a Friday late afternoon.

Is it crooked, or is that the angle of the photo?

[d1dsj]

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Reversable like in pull up ? Most Kahlers are on a one way spring loaded cam. And tons of Gibson'd break the headstock with no trem.

Sorry, no I meant can it be changed back to a stop tail and abr bridge? And ref the headstock break, I know it’s a weak point but you’d think that Gibson themselves would have questioned fitting a locking device into such a vulnerable weak spot?

[ItsaBass]

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Is it crooked, or is that the angle of the photo?

It's very crooked.

Sometimes they were a bit crooked, even when they came stock with Kahlers in the '80s. But this is the most extreme example I've seen a picture of. Possibly because of being retrofitted to a guitar from a pre-Kahler era, which might have had a sharper bridge angle.

Also, is that a fingerprint in the refinished volute area (that part with the checking that doesn't match the checking on the rest of the guitar)?

[JMP/HBE]

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Sorry, no I meant can it be changed back to a stop tail and abr bridge? And ref the headstock break, I know it’s a weak point but you’d think that Gibson themselves would have questioned fitting a locking device into such a vulnerable weak spot?

That type of Kahler had to be routed, not a flush mount.

The trem does look off center to me and thats not good IMO as far as resale.

10lb LPC with broken neck & crooked trem, hope the OP didn't pay alot.
But really if it plays well nobody would notice except people on guitar forums lol.

I could learn to love it.

[brentrocks]

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Sorry, no I meant can it be changed back to a stop tail and abr bridge? And ref the headstock break, I know it’s a weak point but you’d think that Gibson themselves would have questioned fitting a locking device into such a vulnerable weak spot?

It can easily be put back to the standard bridge and tailpiece. There will be route in the top between the bridge and the tailpiece

The reason the trem is slightly crooked is because there are set screws on the tremolo where it rests on the tailpiece studs. The bass side set screw is adjusted in farther than the treble side.

[brentrocks]

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After playing this bad boy for a while tonight, I decided the Kahler and I weren't going to get along!

So I went rummaging through my parts drawer looking for a good quality Nashville style tailpiece and bridge.....I found a heavily aged locking Tone Pros tail and a chrome Tone pros bridge.....(I'll have to pick up an aged gold set some time soon...lol)

So I pulled the trem off to find the obligatory route. Took off the locking bracket on the headstock. Nothing special...looks like a clean job, since it was done at Gibson. I proceed to install the Tone pros, setup and play.....what a difference!!! The guitar plays so much better!!!

IMG_2100 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr

IMG_2104 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr

IMG_2103 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr

IMG_2102 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr

[JMP/HBE]

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What you fill the hole with ?

[brentrocks]

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What you fill the hole with ?

A black vinyl sticker

[orpheo]

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Yes, that's a good move. I really regret having installed a few of those bad boys in my younger days. Very bad decision. IMHO, Kahlers are the worst...

[d1dsj]

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It looks the part now, very cool guitar!

[brentrocks]

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HERE ARE SOME BETTER POST-KAHLER PICS...


IMG_2140 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr

IMG_2139 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr

IMG_2138 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr

IMG_2137 by brent HENDERSON, on Flickr

[JB_From_Hell]

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Love how worn those pickup covers are. Sharp looking tail piece, too.

[Wattage]

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from previous experience you could have that hole filled pretty easily

Guitar looks so much better and I am sure sounds better too

[ErikH]

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That looks sharp without the Kahler. Good choice on the bridge and tailpiece. I think the contrast of metals looks cool, like they wore that way along with the pickups. It works.

I'd at least fill the screw holes on the headstock. The Kahler route can be filled rather easily as it looks like a really clean route.