Fender NAMM 2020 peek ...
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Ascension
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Owned a bunch of guitars with both over the years . Agree with you here 100% that Kahlers if properly set up are every bit as stable as a Floyd at the very least and in some ways are more stable. The wild card was that behind the nut lock Kahler used instead of a using a real locking nut. The very best locking system ever IMO was the old Kahler Steeler and Floyd was so threatened by the unit they sued Kahler and forced it off the market.
Owned a bunch of guitars with both over the years . Agree with you here 100% that Kahlers if properly set up are every bit as stable as a Floyd at the very least and in some ways are more stable. The wild card was that behind the nut lock Kahler used instead of a using a real locking nut. The very best locking system ever IMO was the old Kahler Steeler and Floyd was so threatened by the unit they sued Kahler and forced it off the market.
JamesPaul
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Both of mine are 23xx series IIRC. Here is a brief explanation of the operation. I am confident there is more detailed info out there.
https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/12621-trem-wars-the-whammy-arms-race?page=5
This link has some close-ups and descriptions at the top. I am glad I found it as I am not sure where my original instructions are.
http://www.glowingtubes.com/p/Kahler_Instructions.htm
Some of my typical low quality phone pics showing mine.
Both of mine are 23xx series IIRC. Here is a brief explanation of the operation. I am confident there is more detailed info out there.
https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/12621-trem-wars-the-whammy-arms-race?page=5
This link has some close-ups and descriptions at the top. I am glad I found it as I am not sure where my original instructions are.
http://www.glowingtubes.com/p/Kahler_Instructions.htm
Some of my typical low quality phone pics showing mine.
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JamesPaul
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Similar info for the Steeler.
http://www.glowingtubes.com/p/Kahler_Steeler_Setup.htm
Similar info for the Steeler.
http://www.glowingtubes.com/p/Kahler_Steeler_Setup.htm
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I think we are at a good time for Fender or another company with really deep pockets to revisit the design of the trem. I am talking about something radically different (but better working) than what is currently available. What prevents this kind of engineering is that the big companies like Fender have a lot of money in 70 year old designs, and that's what people seem to want. They aren't really given any other options, though.
I think we are at a good time for Fender or another company with really deep pockets to revisit the design of the trem. I am talking about something radically different (but better working) than what is currently available. What prevents this kind of engineering is that the big companies like Fender have a lot of money in 70 year old designs, and that's what people seem to want. They aren't really given any other options, though.
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the railtail by Floyd Rose and the Sophia Trems are fairly new and a new take on current trems? The Tremking and SuperVee were also fairly fresh designs but each had their own struggles. (The blade on the superVee could snap after heavy abuse and the rolling pins on the Tremking could wear out and simply stop returning to its neutral zero after a while).
the railtail by Floyd Rose and the Sophia Trems are fairly new and a new take on current trems? The Tremking and SuperVee were also fairly fresh designs but each had their own struggles. (The blade on the superVee could snap after heavy abuse and the rolling pins on the Tremking could wear out and simply stop returning to its neutral zero after a while).
Butch Snyder
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I kind of like the green one, in a guilty pleasure kind of way. You know, I would own it and play it in my house but not in public. I do have a rep to uphold.
I also remember when MIM guitars for $300-$400 and were better than they are today.
I kind of like the green one, in a guilty pleasure kind of way. You know, I would own it and play it in my house but not in public. I do have a rep to uphold.
I also remember when MIM guitars for $300-$400 and were better than they are today.
devastone
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The stock bridge pup was a Super 3, not a Super D. You can tell in the video from the black hex polepieces.
The stock bridge pup was a Super 3, not a Super D. You can tell in the video from the black hex polepieces.
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TVFV
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If they copied Clint, their guitars wouldn't have a neck pickup.
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Butch Snyder
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Maybe nostalgia? Maybe meant for the guys who used them back in the 80's, like me when I was experimenting and would have nothing to do with Telecasters.:scratchch
Sirion
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Perhaps off-topic, but what IS new about the Sophia trem? I remember there being an influx of videos about it when it first arrived, but once people were pressed for actual improvements on the FR I only heard fluff.
Perhaps off-topic, but what IS new about the Sophia trem? I remember there being an influx of videos about it when it first arrived, but once people were pressed for actual improvements on the FR I only heard fluff.
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Not really, since it's still a non-locking trem.
The only 'new' trem I've seen pop up that had me interested was the locking trem by Hipshot, a few years ago. That trem works very well. Helas, you need a very, very big route behind the trem to work the finetuners. Perhaps because it was designed for a headless guitar
Not really, since it's still a non-locking trem.
The only 'new' trem I've seen pop up that had me interested was the locking trem by Hipshot, a few years ago. That trem works very well. Helas, you need a very, very big route behind the trem to work the finetuners. Perhaps because it was designed for a headless guitar
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