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    My American Original ‘50s Telecaster came with a little pamphlet called “Lacquer Finishes: Precautions and Care”.

    An excerpt:

    Originally posted by Fender
    Section 3, Chemical Reactions: Use only a non-silicone based guitar polish, and avoid using guitar straps, stands or wall hangers made from vinyl, plastic, synthetic or surgical rubber tubing, as these materials may react with the lacquer and mar the finish of your instrument.
    So what does that leave? Is this where you wrap the contact points of the stand in clean white cotton flannel and hope for the best?
    Last edited by TMD; 06-28-2020, 04:44 AM.
    What’s funnier than putting up roadblocks to stop the advance of someone who’s running away from you at four hundred miles an hour?

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    Re: Care of lacquer finishes

    Have owned many nitro finished guitars and never had issues. Worked in shops however and saw MAJOR finish damage from leaving guitars out on hangers and stands long term. Trick is to use only pure Carnauba car wax on the finish and don't leave your guitar sitting out on a hanger or stand long term keep it in the case.
    My 25 year old 1995 nitro finished Washburn USA MG 120 any questions?
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    • #3
      Re: Care of lacquer finishes

      Originally posted by Ascension View Post
      ...any questions?
      How long is too long to leave a nitro guitar on a hanger or stand?
      What’s funnier than putting up roadblocks to stop the advance of someone who’s running away from you at four hundred miles an hour?

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      • #4
        Re: Care of lacquer finishes

        Do yourself a favor: Buy several of the classic design Hamilton guitar/bass stands. Best design on the market, totally safe for solvent-based finishes, last forever, folds up small enough to fit in the back of a combo amp or in a gig bag, the most stable of any folding stand, and among the most affordable stands sold. With these out there at 25 bucks, there's almost no reason for anyone to buy any other folding guitar stand. I've had my pair for something like 25 years, and I invested less than people spend these days on a single stand that will eat their finish and/or not last for the long haul. Never a dive, never any finish damage, have gigged with them for literally decades. Everything else feels like garbage to me, and costs too much as well.

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        • #5
          Re: Care of lacquer finishes

          There are stands and hangers on the market safe for nitro. Avoid the cheap ones with the rubber surgical tubing. I've got Hercules wall hangers and stands and they're safe.

          I used to loop my cable between the strap and the body - that is until I had a cable with a rubber wrap that covered the plug end and about 6 inches down the cable. The rubber started to melt the nitro finish where it made contact with the guitar body.
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          • #6
            Re: Care of lacquer finishes

            https://forum.gibson.com/topic/16072...-guitar-stand/

            http://herculesstands.com/international/faq/

            https://www.strat-talk.com/threads/a...o-safe.402740/
            Last edited by TMD; 06-28-2020, 05:02 PM.
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            • #7
              Re: Care of lacquer finishes

              I think buying a guitar with a laquer finish just requires a little more care. You can't use many of the commonly available stands, or cleaners. It is just more fragile overall. Some people are totally OK with this extra care, and some don't care. But it is something to be aware of when deciding on buying a particular instrument.
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              • #8
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                • #9
                  Re: Care of lacquer finishes

                  Hercules is just covering their butts legally just in case someone with some wonky version of nitro lacquer reacts with their stands. I've got several Fenders and a Gibson that have been hanging on Hercules hangers for years and they've not had a hint of an issue.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Care of lacquer finishes

                    That Fender stand claims to be nitrocellulose safe. I actually bought it for my Explorer a couple of years ago.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Care of lacquer finishes

                      Anybody have any anecdotal evidence regarding the compatibility of this stand with nitrocellulose lacquer finishes?

                      https://shop.fender.com/en-US/access...991803000.html

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                      • #12
                        Re: Care of lacquer finishes

                        Good lord this seems like a lot of work. I have an army of acoustic instruments with nitro finishes. Guess we’ll see if my wall hangers are safe.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Care of lacquer finishes

                          I use the mini Fenders, have gigged for decades setting my Highway 1 Tele on it. Never marred the finish. I did more damage to the finish while rewiring it than playing out. Lacquer is easy to repair anyway.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Care of lacquer finishes

                            Forgot to ask: What do you use to clean and polish nitro finishes?
                            What’s funnier than putting up roadblocks to stop the advance of someone who’s running away from you at four hundred miles an hour?

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                              Re: Care of lacquer finishes

                              Originally posted by TMD View Post
                              Forgot to ask: What do you use to clean and polish nitro finishes?
                              Soft cotton rag and a little bit of water. Next level up, dish soap. Next level up for grime is Ivory bar soap. Then rinse, and rub till dry with a soft 100 percent cotton rag. Not a wash cloth, because they are sewn up with poly thread. The best thing is an unstitched rag that you have cut out from a really old tee shirt.
                              Originally posted by LesStrat
                              Yogi Berra was correct.
                              Originally posted by JOLLY
                              I do a few chord things, some crappy lead stuff, and then some rhythm stuff.

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