Can't choose an amp for me.. Help!!!! ENGL or BOGNER or MARSHAL ??

[59paul]

Re: Can't choose an amp for me.. Help!!!! ENGL or BOGNER or MARSHAL ??

I've always gotten everything I need from my Marshall's. Can't see any need to use anything else at this point.

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Can't choose an amp for me.. Help!!!! ENGL or BOGNER or MARSHAL ??

I know I rambled about the Ecstasy, but the fact is, you don't NEED an amp like that to have great tone. Some of the greatest tones in history came out of plain old Marshall, Fenders, and Vox's. It's all in how you setup you own rig. With the right guitar, pickups, amps, and pedals, the world of tone is infinite. I admit, I'm spoiled but I could just as easily plug into a 5150 next to a Hotrod Deville and get a great tone out of it. It's a simple as having a few quality components in your rig, and eliminating the weak links.

[That90'sGuy]

Re: Can't choose an amp for me.. Help!!!! ENGL or BOGNER or MARSHAL ??

Gearjoneser, with the boost features... can you get the type of versatility I am looking for?

Chimey Fender cleans boosted to a bluesy overdrive, a light crunch that can be boosted to something like a Marshall plexi, and a high gain channel that can be boosted to a wicked solo tone?

I have no doubt that with all the bells and whistles a Bogner has, I could nail a ton of probably the best sounds I've ever heard. However, how does all that translate live? I do use different tones for different parts and more than 3 main tones is needed. I wouldn't have time in between songs to mess with a million knobs, no matter how great the tone is. That would be my only concern. I don't tapdance with footswitches and that isn't my intent, but some songs you want to be really clean, some you want to have a thick bluesy overdriven tone, some you want a light crunch for strumming, some modern rock distortion, some heavy distortion.

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Can't choose an amp for me.. Help!!!! ENGL or BOGNER or MARSHAL ??

In a live situation, you pretty much need to have your 3 channels set like you're favorite 3 amps. Then, if you need more than a few db boost, you'll have to resort to pedals. If the clean can be set from anything from punchy power section clean to a JMP Marshall, the blue ch. can be anything from a clean plexi to G. Lynch, and the red channel can be anything from Gibbons, Zakk, and Paul Gilbert, you've pretty much covered it all. The hard part, for me, is deciding if the blue channel should be a plexi or modded JCM 800 type tone. 4 channels would be ideal, but if you have a good OD, you can make the clean, edgy...the blue hotrodded, and the red channel into infinite liquid sustain. I'm sure you could do that on your Triamp. If you just set the channels where you like them, and get a killer OD, you should be able to cover everything. Your rig is perfectly capable of what you need,
just add an OD or two.

[Young Angus]

Re: Can't choose an amp for me.. Help!!!! ENGL or BOGNER or MARSHAL ??

ENGL of course, although i havent played a bogner and they're supposed to be pretty darn stompin too! Both of them would no doubt crap all over a TSL. But there are other marshalls (old ones) you could consider like a decent modded JCM800 of plexi....stay away from modern marshalls though, thats what i think anyway and i know lots of people here will dissagree but it sounds like you're after a pretty heavy tone by the mention of ENGL and Bogner, and to my ears the modern marshalls just arent my cup of tea.

I rekon you should go the ENGL without a doubt

(as if any of you expected me to recommend anything else )

[That90'sGuy]

Re: Can't choose an amp for me.. Help!!!! ENGL or BOGNER or MARSHAL ??

Good advice Gearjoneser, I may need to still consider getting one (although, I know it's not gonna be for a loooonggg time). My Tubescreamer would probably work on the clean channel to give me what I want. As far as the heavier stuff, I'm sure a Klon Centaur would adjust the gain properties without changing the tone.

[Duncan]

Re: Can't choose an amp for me.. Help!!!! ENGL or BOGNER or MARSHAL ??

Depends on your perspective. Obviously, the music you're playing and the sound you ar after will dictate to a large degree, as will the cost, but I'd also add WHERE are you going to be playing? If you're playing in your bedroom or round some mates places, any of those amp choices are insane!! If you intend to gig, the only thing I'll add is I would be a lot happier with som pissed ****head spilling beer into my $800 second hand JCM800, than into a $5000 Bogner...

..just another thought to ponder...

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Can't choose an amp for me.. Help!!!! ENGL or BOGNER or MARSHAL ??

Duncan, I know what you mean! I've gigged for two years with my halfstack and don't have ONE blemish on the whole halfstack. It's a feat of magic to keep it pristine.
Basically, nobody touches it or moves it till it's in cases. Then, at gigs, I pull it out, set it up, and don't let people touch it. I NEVER leave it at a soundcheck unsupervised. I kinda sucks to have to be that careful, but the one I have is the most collectible of the bunch. I own it to use it, but it would sicken me if it got damaged.

One day, I came into my rehearsal place and saw that the singer in the other band in my space had stacked 3 guitar cases on my head. I had nightmares that night!
It'll never happen again, tho. LOL

[edi_87]

Re: Can't choose an amp for me.. Help!!!! ENGL or BOGNER or MARSHAL ??

Duncan, I know what you mean! I've gigged for two years with my halfstack and don't have ONE blemish on the whole halfstack. It's a feat of magic to keep it pristine.
Basically, nobody touches it or moves it till it's in cases. Then, at gigs, I pull it out, set it up, and don't let people touch it. I NEVER leave it at a soundcheck unsupervised. I kinda sucks to have to be that careful, but the one I have is the most collectible of the bunch. I own it to use it, but it would sicken me if it got damaged.

One day, I came into my rehearsal place and saw that the singer in the other band in my space had stacked 3 guitar cases on my head. I had nightmares that night!
It'll never happen again, tho. LOL

Gearjoneser, what tubes?

And question for europeans: Do you know where in europe i can find and try a Bogner Ecstasy ( i mean store )??

Q3, to all: Does 50W Bogner Ecstasy head has the same features as 100w head..