Slayer's Kerry King string tension confusion

[weepingminotaur]

Kerry King wrote Black Magic and Hell Awaits, arguably the band's #2 and #3 most important songs (behind Angel of Death, of course). Calling him a hack just because of the silly jock-ish image he's put forth in the last 20 years is shortsighted.

I don't agree with his view of King, but his comments have nothing to do with King's image. He's talking about King's guitar playing.

[NegativeEase]

Here's poor Kerry's fingers refusing to obey and is just like "nope screw this" and gives up. I do love the crowd rooting for him though. "We love you Kerry!"

Haha.

been there -especially cold outdoor gig.

[Bogner]

Kerry King wrote Black Magic and Hell Awaits, arguably the band's #2 and #3 most important songs (behind Angel of Death, of course). Calling him a hack just because of the silly jock-ish image he's put forth in the last 20 years is shortsighted.

Just because the guy wrote 2 songs you find amazing doesn't equate to him being a proper guitar player which is what I am referring to.

[Clint 55]

^ Yeah well your proper guitarists can't improvise 4 part fugues like Bach so maybe they suck.

[Bogner]

^ Many can though.

[Clint 55]

Ya

[Obsessive Compulsive]

^Tony Macalpine among one...lol...

[Clint 55]

Lol

[dave74]

"proper guitar player"


Honestly that does NOT sound like something Kerry or Jeff were going for with Slayer.
Improper guitar players have more fun!,,,,,,like blonds yaknow!


IMO their leads and solos from South to Divine were indeed divine.
The live dvd from the Divine tour really does good at showing both of the masters fret-workings up close. It stays still sometimes so you can really appreciate their skill back then.

I absolutely love the great solo technical shredders like Satch, Vai, Tony, Marty, and newer guys also like Andy James and of course Chris Broderick, but I would not call them anymore "proper" than Kerry or Jeff, or James and Kirk, or you nor even myself.

IMO:
"The best musicians are those that can most splendidly impart whatever moods or emotions they intend to convey with their composition and performance."

[nexion218]

^ Yeah well your proper guitarists can't improvise 4 part fugues like Bach so maybe they suck.

Alex Skolnick... Guthrie Govan...Malmsteen...Kiko Loureiro...Chris Broderick...Dave Davidson...Satriani...Vai.... Conan Gonzalez. Just a few from my list of "proper players" who could most definitely pull it off. And a ****ton of others who we don't even know by the name. Well maybe Davidson and Skolnick are too much of a jazz cats, but hey...

I once had a conversation in a bar with this random guy about guitar players:

"Ooooh, do you know Slash? He's the best guitar player in the entire world!" he goes.
"Oh yeah? What makes you think so?" I asked
""Cuz he plays in Guns, he's my fave playa and whenever he gets a new guitar he disassemles and reassembles it"

I told him to get a set of screwdrivers and allen wrenches to facilitate his journey in becoming just as good as Slash then ended the conversation.

I really don't undersand why people have a hard time admiting that their idols or childhood heroes are not perfect or invincible. King is a mediocre player at best on the list of guitar gods, especially by today's standards. Does it change how instrumental he was in creating the band and a bunch of sub-genres.? Absolutely not! He is and will be a guitar god for a very long time. He's just not necessarily on the list for his capabilities as a guitarist, but rather for his creativity, his unque style and musical vision. Sure, he can be tight and precise, no way you play and records Slayer-like music while being sloppy. But go ask him about improvising those 4 part fugues (btw I think that improvisation is much more about theory than guitar playing, but whatever...).

Hetfield himself admitted once that the reason why you don't see them jam with virtuoso musicians is that they are not comfortable, not confident enough in their skills to keep up with a virtuoso. Does that strip them from their guitar/music/metal god status? Nothing will ever take that away from those guys. Or does his participation on several classic records make Kirk Hammett an excellent player? He is extremely sloppy, especially live. I still love the guy's playing to death. But the fact that he plays in one of my fave bands doesn't erase his flaws and weaknesses.

But long story short: we don't have to agree to everything, do we?

[Jack_TriPpEr]

My payout check just arrived in the mail and I wanted to thank the select few of you that helped make this windfall possible. You see, I placed a bet that this thread about the KK sig model's neck scale specs would devolve into a debate about KK's guitar skills. Thanks for all that you do! Lol, j.k.

[nexion218]

My payout check just arrived in the mail and I wanted to thank the select few of you that helped make this windfall possible. You see, I placed a bet that this thread about the KK sig model's neck scale specs would devolve into a debate about KK's guitar skills. Thanks for all that you do! Lol, j.k.

You see, the OP was pretty easily discussed , had to keep the thread alive somehow.

Speaking of which.... I can't recall what percent of the sum we agreed on if I help you to win by keeping the thread alive .... JK

[Adieu]

My payout check just arrived in the mail and I wanted to thank the select few of you that helped make this windfall possible. You see, I placed a bet that this thread about the KK sig model's neck scale specs would devolve into a debate about KK's guitar skills. Thanks for all that you do! Lol, j.k.

Wait is THAT why the state of California just direct deposited a whopping 18 bucks to my debit card???

[Mincer]

Let's get back on topic, please.

[Jack_TriPpEr]

You see, the OP was pretty easily discussed , had to keep the thread alive somehow.

Speaking of which.... I can't recall what percent of the sum we agreed on if I help you to win by keeping the thread alive .... JK

Nice!