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  • What guitar for these strings?

    I know this may sound like I'm putting the cart before the horse, but I've wanted to try these strings since I've read some reviews. They're Thomastik-Infeld Jazz-Swing 12-50's. I've never used strings this expensive, ($30 a pop), or this heavy before. I've got several guitars I can try them on, but most will be Fender scale or Gibson scale. I have a couple Peavey short scale guitars too, but I'm thinking that heavy strings would work better with a longer scale. I'm aso thinking that these might go good on my Vintage Modified Squier Jaguar HH with DD JB/Jazz pup's.

    What's your thoughts on this? At $30 a pop, I don't want to mess up this experiment.

    Thanks all;
    Artie

    P.S. They might also go good on my Gretsch Junior Jet with the new Psyclone set. It's a 24.6" scale length.

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    Last edited by ArtieToo; 05-29-2021, 08:59 AM.

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    Gretsch

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    • #3
      they will be more playable on a shorter scale

      do you have a semi hollow 335 like the one pictured?

      EHD
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      • #4
        Originally posted by ehdwuld View Post
        they will be more playable on a shorter scale

        do you have a semi hollow 335 like the one pictured?
        No. I wish. I really want to add one to my stable, but can't do it right now.

        The Gretsch is sounding better.

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        • #5
          I have several jazz clients who use those strings. They all play 335's and they all ***** and moan about how stiff their guitar plays. My question is always, "so why use them?". All of them say "My guitar sounds so good with them".

          Then I let them play my Eastman AR-810 (Gibson L-5 clone) strung with D'Addario half-rounds in the same gauge.



          They all agree that my strings are more supple and have that round 60's jazz tone, but they keep playing those over-priced hard to play Thomastiks. WTH? Suffering for your art? I don't get it.
          aka Chris Pile, formerly of Six String Fever

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          • #6
            Well, I'll find out. I've got them now, so I've got to make the best of it. In hindsight, I probably shoulda asked before I popped for them.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ICTGoober View Post
              I have several jazz clients who use those strings. They all play 335's and they all ***** and moan about how stiff their guitar plays. My question is always, "so why use them?". All of them say "My guitar sounds so good with them". Then I let them play my Eastman AR-810 (Gibson L-5 clone) strung with D'Addario half-rounds in the same gauge. They all agree that my strings are more supple and have that round 60's jazz tone, but they keep playing those over-priced hard to play Thomastiks. WTH? Suffering for your art? I don't get it.
              That's the reason I tune down a whole step. I realized it was just going to be necessary to get the tone and playability I wanted. You get diminishing returns going to thicker strings because thicker sounds bassier but the increased tension doesn't let the string vibrate as loosely which contributes to a bassy feel. My ideal jazz set up is 12s in D. I have 13s just for the sake of it, but they're a bit too tight and it reduces the bassy feel a bit. 12s or 13s in standard is just ridiculous for me.

              Artie, use your intuition about which guitar you'd like that fat thuddy sound on. Guitars that are suitable for jazz are obviously the main option, but it's not the rule. My old room mate had flats on a sss strat and it sounded good. If you're not positive about which guitar they'd be best on then don't trim them after you put them on, just string them up with the full length sticking out.
              The things that you wanted
              I bought them for you

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              • #8
                That's a good idea. Thanks. I may down tune also. I haven't tried that either.

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                • #9
                  They belong on an Epiphone Emperor Regent or Broadway or Masterbuilt Century. So you'll just have to buy another guitar. Oh what a shame. Unthinkable. (huh ha! Foghorn says)

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                  • #10
                    Firefly or Grote makes inexpensive 335 clones

                    FWIW
                    I use Half Round strings on all my Electrics
                    42-9 Daddarios
                    EHD
                    Just here surfing Guitar Pron
                    RG2EX1 w/ SD hot-rodded pickups / RG4EXFM1 w/ Carvin S22j/b + FVN middle
                    SR500 / Martin 000CE-1/Epiphone Hummingbird
                    Epiphone Florentine with OEM Probuckers
                    Ehdwuld branded Blue semi hollow custom with JB/Jazz
                    Reptile Green Gibson Custom Studio / Aqua Dean Shire semi hollow with piezo
                    Carvin Belair / Laney GC80A Acoustic Amp (a gift from Guitar Player Mag)
                    GNX3000 (yea I'm a modeler)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by beaubrummels View Post
                      They belong on an Epiphone Emperor Regent or Broadway or Masterbuilt Century. So you'll just have to buy another guitar. Oh what a shame. Unthinkable. (huh ha! Foghorn says)
                      That's not necessarily out of the question, but something, (or two), has to go away first.

                      Originally posted by ehdwuld View Post
                      Firefly or Grote makes inexpensive 335 clones.
                      I'm trying to shy away from cheaper guitars. I have enough of those.

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                      • #12
                        You know, another use for heavy jazz strings is short scale guitars. I put .13-.52 flatwounds on my Rickenbacker 320 once and it sounded just like the early Beatle recordings and demos. (I mean the early early rock and roll stuff). The factory spec for the Rick 320 is 13s, which is why I tried it.

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                        • #13
                          I would find their roundwounds .09s on sale here and there. I would use them on my Lesters. They are super long-lasting, super loud and the best strings I have used in my life. Awesome for pushing your signal chain hard. If I were going to the studio I would drop the $30 and buy a set.

                          EDIT: I found them for about $15 when I would find them on special I was paying $50 for a box of 10

                          Last edited by Securb; 05-29-2021, 06:21 PM.


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by beaubrummels View Post
                            You know, another use for heavy jazz strings is short scale guitars.
                            I was thinking about that too. I have a cool MIA Peavey T-30 23.5" scale that might work. (Internet pic, but mine is identical.)

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                            Last edited by ArtieToo; 05-29-2021, 06:36 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Securb View Post
                              I would find their roundwounds .09s on sale here and there. I would use them on my Lesters.
                              I'm not too crazy about 9's. 10's are about my comfort level.

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