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As surmised by all if you, & myself, it was an OOP situation, & the funky blends I was afraid to loose is all there!! Thnx folks & be well~
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Originally posted by Chistopher View PostWhat the damn is 60s wiring and who decided to call it thatOriginally posted by jeremy View Postthere is 50's wiring and modern wiring for how the tone control is wired, then dependent and independent wiring for the volume controls. not sure why people started calling things 60s style and had never heard that before maybe a year ago
For many years Gibson used T-tops in most models, so some treble loss when you rolled back was actually helpful.
Decades passed before it became widely known that the old wiring behaves differently.
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HMMM, all i know is that the way things sit, & not at my doing, is that any Volume change of either p/u when in the MIDDLE position, sends me thru a kaleidoscope of phasing issues, along with very uneven Volume taper & sudden drop-off when either Volume is in or around '1'... Hey,, some of the sounds are actually cool & usable, but something is amiss, & I'd like to better understand why, even if I choose to leave it as is....As for Tone, I use a very low cap (less than .01), & only on the bridge,,, No neck Tone Cap...
thnx folks!!
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there is 50's wiring and modern wiring for how the tone control is wired, then dependent and independent wiring for the volume controls. not sure why people started calling things 60s style and had never heard that before maybe a year ago
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Yes it is common, and I must say, quite handy.
Roll the pickup you don't use to zero, and you have a built in kill with.
Roll it up just ever so slightly and you can go from full on distortion in the bridge to pretty darn clean, again at the flick of a switch.
I love the pot wiring on a Les Paul.
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Originally posted by eclecticsynergy View PostThe term "50s wiring" is actually used to refer to two different things.
There's 50s tone pot wiring, most often discussed I think because it's a very simple mod that helps preserve treble when rolling back volume.
But there's also 50s volume pot wiring, where in middle position turning either one off shuts down the whole thing.
60s volume pot wiring would eliminate that problem for you.
EdIt: A little more confusingly, the 50s style tone wiring can also be used in conjunction with 60s style volume wiring.
50s tone wiring is simply a matter of tapping for the tone pot downstream of the volume pot, rather than before it.
That way when the volume is backed off, less signal goes over to the tone pot for treble rolloff.
I don’t have a diagram that does both, but basically you want the pickup connected to the center lug of the volume pot, the selector switch connected to the outside lug opposite of the ground and the tone control connected to this lug as well. I’m not sure if I’ve ever combined them like this before.
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The term "50s wiring" is actually used to refer to two different things.
There's 50s tone pot wiring, most often discussed I think because it's a very simple mod that helps preserve treble when rolling back volume.
But there's also 50s volume pot wiring, where in middle position turning either one off shuts down the whole thing.
60s volume pot wiring would eliminate that problem for you.
EdIt: A little more confusingly, the 50s style tone wiring can also be used in conjunction with 60s style volume wiring.
50s tone wiring is simply a matter of tapping for the tone pot downstream of the volume pot, rather than before it.
That way when the volume is backed off, less signal goes over to the tone pot for treble rolloff.Last edited by eclecticsynergy; 08-29-2021, 02:16 PM.
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PFDarkside,,, The 50's thing might be cool,,, is that the one where you don't lose all signal when you totally back off of either pup? Thnx!!
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Very cool info,,, Any simple link to the Schematic for independent controls, or better yet, for both the 50 & 60's setup? Hey, it's 95 in the shade down here, so yes, a lazy sod i am
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you can swap the wires on the volume pots
with the wires from the switch going to the center lug instead of the outside lug
and the wire from the jack to the outside lug instead of the center lug
independent volumes
my current project has a single volume for the magnetic pickups and one single volume for the piezo pickup
I am wiring those like this for independence
so I can roll in or out which every I want
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Your guitar is V/V/T/T? Not only can you do dependent or independent volumes as JB from Hell mentioned, you can also connect the tone in 50’s or modern. 50’s will retain treble as you roll off volume, modern will retain normal volume control as you roll off tone and volume.
If you back off the neck how does it sound? Do you get to a point where the neck is wimpy and thin yet still overpowering the bridge?
Also, I don’t see an X2N neck, so who knows how good a knockoff “set” is going to sound together.Last edited by PFDarkside; 08-29-2021, 12:10 PM.
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There are two commonly used wiring schemes with that setup, one is 50’s style, the other 60’s. One of them does what you’re referring to.
As far as the pickup volumes, resistance doesn’t really indicate output, as evidenced by what you’re experiencing. If they have 4 conductor wiring, make sure the bridge isn’t split or parallel.
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