Warmoth LP. Advice anyone?

[Frantic_Rock]

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Thanks guys for the advice!

I settled on it. Towards the end of the year, i will be looking for a Jackson Soloist SL2H at a good price, or If i can't find one, putting this thing together slowly but surely.

I'm thinking of a royal blue transparent flame maple on mahogany, ebony board, mahogany neck, white plastic binding at both sides of body, binding on neck, Shark jackson style inlays, JB/'59/Jazz in 3x cream zebra - finally decided :P, and 6 way switching (3-way plus middle pickup toggle) I'm gonna go for one of those aluminum tailpieces, expensive tuners, bone nut, and crome bucker covers. So lookout guys!!!

[Blueline]

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warmoth makes nice stuff, the bolt on will give you a brighter sound - from my experience - might get you a little away from LP territory - but then again it might make you happier

their stuff is very nice. If you want a set neck LP style, PM me, but I'd recommend warmoth. You'll be very happy and enjoy the experience a lot.

[Stirt]

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My number one guitar is a Warmoth LP. Mahogany with a flame Maple top and maple neck with an Ebony fingerboard 24 3/4" scale. Stainless Steel 6105 frets with cream binding for neck and body. This thing kills. I've had 4 Gibson LPs over a 25 year period and this thing out performs them all. I first had a Mahogany neck with ebony fretboard on it and I think personally I like that deep growl a bit better than the maple neck, but really, it's hard to go wrong.

[TwofacePimp]

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Aw man, new GAS attack, just when I thought that things were settling down.

[dr.barlo]

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I have built two warmoths, a VIP style, and a strat hardtail style. I honestly wish I could say they are better than my gibsons, but honestly they are not! I take my LP standard over those any second.

If you want a LP get a LP!

B

[hacker]

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I would try the stainless steel frets. I do not think they add brightness. SS will last forever, not tarnish, etc.

I have a 2-HB warmoth tele w/ an ebony neck and the SS frets. The guitar is anything but bright-even with a JB in the bridge (yes, there is a full steel tele bridge there too). the body is chambered mahogany.

BTW, I would love to build a warmoth LP, and I agree 100% that bolt on guitars can sustain as much as set neck ones.

[Fatty]

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Plus Seths and Ants don't come in 4 conductor - i don't think.

You should be able to order Seths or Ants through any SD dealer with a 4-conductor wire. It'll be a "shop floor custom". (I work at a shop that is an SD dealer, and just special ordered some 4-conductor Seth's for myself) If you were really dead-set on it, I'd suggest flying off a PM to Lew or John. They should be able to steer you in the right direction.

[Frantic_Rock]

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Thanks everyone for the advice!

Hey Frantic,

I've built 3 Warmoth guitars (a strat and two doublecut LPs). To me, a Warmoth LP and a Gibson LP are two totally different guitars, merely sharing a common body style. That said, I prefer the sound of my Warmoth's to the sound of any Les Paul I've played... the Warmoth's just seem to have a bit more definition and bite. I attribute that mainly to the scale length of my Warmoths (25.5" compared to Gibsons 24.75") and the Warmoths bolt on neck versus Gibsons set neck. Never believe anyone who says a bolt on guitar is an inferior instrument to a set neck guitar. With a tight neck pocket (which all my warmoths have had) the sustain is equal to or better than set neck guitars.

I have no personal experience with stainless steel frets, but I've heard quite a few people having less than stellar experiences with them. A lot of people thought the stainless steel frets made the sound overly bright and tinny. Your mileage may vary on that one, though.

Hope that helps some. If you have any more questions, feel free to PM me or ask em here.

Oh ya I should've known you can't split all 3 with 1 pot... Plus Seths and Ants don't come in 4 conductor - i don't think. I think i'll just keep it simple without any splitting actually - after all its a les paul and is meant to be fat. Good point about the stainless steel frets - i might just go with standard 6130s that are on many Les pauls. Or maybe something taller and bigger - 6150s or 6100 monsters...

Body will be flame maple on Mahogany with white binding.
I think the fretboard will be a brasillian rosewood or ebony on a mahogany neck.

Overall its gonna be around 600 for the body, 400 for the neck... 250 pickups, 300 - or so hardware... Wow that adds up actually. I better make lots of money soon!

Aaaah dreaming is nice eh?

Will look something like this:

[54stratlover]

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when ordering you will need to tell them if you want 24 3/4" scale length or the standard 25 1/2" sclae length. It affects how they make the neck and route the body. just a little note the remember when ordering.

[Mike_D.]

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You can get a 24.75" scale neck from Warmoth in the LP headstock. I just built one for a friend of mine and it kills, absolutely kills.

The guitar we built had a chambered LP body (mahogany back, maple top) mated to a rosewood neck with an ebony fretboard. You can't believe the sustain and power this thing has. We loaded it with a JB in the bridge and '59 in the neck. This wood/pickup combo rocks!

[rspst14]

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I agree, it's been my observation that a properly designed bolt-on with a good tight neck pocket fit will sustain as well as a set neck. I would advise you not to go with stainless steel frets, as the sound is brighter and somewhat harsh compared to nickel frets. If you really want to extend the life of your frets, go with pure nickel strings. They're softer than regular or stainless steel strings, so they're easier on your frets. I've had my Wolfgang for two and a half years, and I play it on a daily basis. I've used pure nickel strings since I first got it, and the guitar currently has zero fretwear.

As far as splitting the pickups, you can't split all three from one push/pull pot. You may run into some trouble here, if the Warmoth body is the same as a regular Gibson as far as thickness goes. Gibson Les Pauls typically require long shaft pots, which are only available in SPST. I think you can do it if you install the DPDT push/pull pot on a thinner section of the body. I know the Jimmy Page mod requires two DPDT pots, so I guess it's possible. But anyway, a SPST pot can split one pickup, a DPDT pot can split two. What you could do is use three SPST pots, so that you can split each pickup individually. Then wire up a fourth DPDT pot to allow you to select only the middle pickup.

As far as pickups go, I would go with one of the following: JB/'59/Jazz, JB/'59/Alnico II Pro, or JB/'59/Pearly Gates.

Ryan

[Fatty]

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Hey Frantic,

I've built 3 Warmoth guitars (a strat and two doublecut LPs). To me, a Warmoth LP and a Gibson LP are two totally different guitars, merely sharing a common body style. That said, I prefer the sound of my Warmoth's to the sound of any Les Paul I've played... the Warmoth's just seem to have a bit more definition and bite. I attribute that mainly to the scale length of my Warmoths (25.5" compared to Gibsons 24.75") and the Warmoths bolt on neck versus Gibsons set neck. Never believe anyone who says a bolt on guitar is an inferior instrument to a set neck guitar. With a tight neck pocket (which all my warmoths have had) the sustain is equal to or better than set neck guitars.

I have no personal experience with stainless steel frets, but I've heard quite a few people having less than stellar experiences with them. A lot of people thought the stainless steel frets made the sound overly bright and tinny. Your mileage may vary on that one, though.

Hope that helps some. If you have any more questions, feel free to PM me or ask em here.

[clint_41]

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every review of a bolt on warmoth LP has been nothing but good. they all say they love the sustain and the playability and the tone and all that. i just built a warmoth strat, and i can definatly say i love the sustain, playability (especially with the '59 roundback profile on the neck) and the tone. so i would say go for it. good luck.

[kaknight]

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I don't know that you can use one push pull to split all three. I might be wrong, but I think that the most you can do is two with one switch.

[fusion101]

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i would have to say that the playability and sound on bolt necks are better, plus steel frets lead to a brighter more unatural sound to my ears: good luck