2x12 vs 4x10

[drew_half_empty]

whats the difference? like sound, volume, im not sure exactly what to ask but im debating the hot rod deville 4x10 and the 2x12. I play, hmm, lots of hardcore punk, but also indie rock, so i need a good clean channel, but when i kick on the drive(external) i need it to sound pretty mean.

also, how many solid state watts are equal to 60 tube watts, like volume wise.

[BS123]

Re: 2x12 vs 4x10

whats the difference? like sound, volume, im not sure exactly what to ask but im debating the hot rod deville 4x10 and the 2x12. I play, hmm, lots of hardcore punk, but also indie rock, so i need a good clean channel, but when i kick on the drive(external) i need it to sound pretty mean.

I used to have a Peavey Classic 50/410 and traded it in on a Classic 50/212. I play Country and fo my tone, the 212 model fit me better. The 410's had just a bit too much mids and not enouh high end sparkle. Some say 10" speakers have a much quicker response. While that is true, especialy when dealing with 15"speakers, I couldn't tell a difference when I switched from the 410 model to the 212 model. I like the topend of the 12" over the 10".

[Benjy_26]

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60 tube watts are equal to about 180 ss watts. BTW, if you are close miking your amp, the 12's will give you a fatter sound.

[drew_half_empty]

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i don't plan to mic it, the venue i play at is big, but not REALLY big, lots of people use 100 watt solid states & it works fine. Which one would be closer to like marshall tube sound, i like the cleans on them but thats about it. For reference lets say its an avt150 thru a 1960 cab

[BS123]

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The Hot Rod series won't get you a Marshall sound. They're great amps but not Marshally. Marshalls use 412 closed-back cabinets. The tubes in Marshalls are different too.

[drew_half_empty]

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well i liek the marshall clean but its not perfect. How is the hot rod sound different though?

[BS123]

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As far as cleans, the Hot Rod is great. It's not a Blackface sound but nice. I like it a lot better than the Marshall clean. Just put a good OD/dist box in front of the Hot Rod.

[drew_half_empty]

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yeah, i was thinking rat2, definately some kind of analog, i'm guessing digital would sound even worse thru a tube than a solid state

[drew_half_empty]

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also, someone please answer, which would be better for what i wanna do, a 2x12 or a 4x10

[Thurisarz]

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also, someone please answer, which would be better for what i wanna do, a 2x12 or a 4x10

i would go 2x12

[Benjy_26]

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for what you do, id go with the HR Deville with 2 12" Vintage 30's and some quality tubes. The GT's sound OK, but are a bit too hard and brittle for me. Personally, I think that the new ElectroHarmonix 6L6's and 12AXT's sound really good for an inexpensive, mass produced tube.

[BS123]

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I'll tell ya this too. The HR DeVille is super loud. It ain't no bedroom amp.

[drew_half_empty]

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yeah i need to be able to play over drums & bass & vocals & all that. I prolly won't be able to replace the tubes for awhile, and even when i could afford it, i'm buying a rat2 and a danelectro dan echo, so it'd be like a month or 2 after i got the amp before i'd consider new tubes. A link to them would be appreciated tho

[59paul]

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A 4x10 is very punchy. Great for clean Blues with a Strat, if it's the Right 4x10....

[Hot _Grits]

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Go for 2x12. Ideally, replace the stock speakers with celestion vintage 30s a little later on as Benjy suggests.