more Mesa Boogie pedals

[Mrkensei]

Re: more Mesa Boogie pedals

Grossly overpriced IMO like everything produced by Mesa and no better (a little less flexible in fact) than the MXR KFK 10 band EQ that is half the price, I'll stick with that.

[dr. ad]

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can you keep it pretty much flat with little bumps on 240 and 2200, or are the sliders keyed..?

IMO buying a mesa and cutting all those mids out is like buying a lamborghini to do burn-outs in your driveway

[El Supremo]

Re: more Mesa Boogie pedals

can you keep it pretty much flat with little bumps on 240 and 2200, or are the sliders keyed..?

IMO buying a mesa and cutting all those mids out is like buying a lamborghini to do burn-outs in your driveway

The EQ on my Studio isn't keyed if that helps.
The older Mesa stuff that featured that EQ are kinda mid heavy and smooth in the highs, so you can get away with scooping on those. I personally take it easy on the eq as I'd like to hear myself in a band situation.
Kinda depends on setup and venue. For that reason I'd rather go for a 10-band MXR myself.

[Nacho8807]

Re: more Mesa Boogie pedals

A long time ago I thought how cool it would be to have the boogie graphic EQ available on any amp, so I'm pretty pleased with the idea. I should have expected the price tag though. Nothing comes cheap from Mesa Engineering.

[gvis]

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While I'll admit that I've never played one, the demos I've seen of the Throttle Box were pretty disappointing. The Wampler Triple Wreck on the other hand....

I agree. Imo they've applied a nice eq option to a weak base pedal; no amount of tweaking can save it. Just my imo; others may love it's tone.

And while I like the demos I've heard of the triple wreck, it hasn't blown my mind either. Now, the empress heavy, that pedal's demos do blow my mind...it arrives at my door on Wed. It's closer to the tone and options I'm looking for, so I hope it works out in reality.

[Agileguy_101]

Re: more Mesa Boogie pedals

You just identified the problem - it's not that Mesa is overpriced, you're just on the wrong side of the pond. I think that with all of the features the dirt boxes offer $300 is a pretty good price.

[Mrkensei]

Re: more Mesa Boogie pedals

You just identified the problem - it's not that Mesa is overpriced, you're just on the wrong side of the pond. I think that with all of the features the dirt boxes offer $300 is a pretty good price.

You're right there, although it's very much brand dependant.

Ibanez and Gibson- Great Value
PRS and Fender- hopelessly overpriced.

Dimarzio- really well priced and great distributor service
Seymour Duncan- really bad pricing (almost double the wholesale price of Dimarzio) and a distributor that wont accept new trade accounts and doesnt even bother to answer email enquiries.

Peavey, Laney and Marshall- decent pricing
Vox and Mesa- so overpriced it's not funny.

But regardless of location it seems a lot of money for a 5 band EQ compared to the MXR.

[ratherdashing]

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You're right there, although it's very much brand dependant.

Ibanez and Gibson- Great Value
PRS and Fender- hopelessly overpriced.

Dimarzio- really well priced and great distributor service
Seymour Duncan- really bad pricing (almost double the wholesale price of Dimarzio) and a distributor that wont accept new trade accounts and doesnt even bother to answer email enquiries.

Peavey, Laney and Marshall- decent pricing
Vox and Mesa- so overpriced it's not funny.

But regardless of location it seems a lot of money for a 5 band EQ compared to the MXR.

You guys need to stop thinking more bands = better. In a lot of cases it's actually the opposite. You could have 100 bands, but if they don't hit the right frequencies with the right precision you may as well have zero.

The Mesa graph is a great EQ, designed for guitar frequencies (other pedals have this pseudo-logarithmic progression that has no relationship with any instrument at all). If this pedal is anything like the one in the amps it's a very well built device, and would exceed a Taiwanese Boss or Chinese MXR in every measure of quality. Even the sliders feel better. That's what you're paying for.

It's a very powerful effect. That 750 slider in particular will dramatically change your tone with a slight nudge in either direction. Mesa knew what they were doing when they chose that frequency. Try that with your MXR ... oops, no 750 band! Oh well!

It's okay if you're not into it. And it's completely okay if they priced it out of your budget. Your first post was very trollish though, because you vigorously slammed the thing before even seeing one in front of you. Seems that the root cause of your frustration is that Mesa is too costly where you live. That sucks, and I feel for you, but making assumptions about something you've probably never even seen because of personal bias is what a troll does.

[Boogie Bill]

Re: more Mesa Boogie pedals

You guys need to stop thinking more bands = better. In a lot of cases it's actually the opposite. You could have 100 bands, but if they don't hit the right frequencies with the right precision you may as well have zero.

The Mesa graph is a great EQ, designed for guitar frequencies (other pedals have this pseudo-logarithmic progression that has no relationship with any instrument at all). If this pedal is anything like the one in the amps it's a very well built device, and would exceed a Taiwanese Boss or Chinese MXR in every measure of quality. Even the sliders feel better. That's what you're paying for.

It's a very powerful effect. That 750 slider in particular will dramatically change your tone with a slight nudge in either direction. Mesa knew what they were doing when they chose that frequency. Try that with your MXR ... oops, no 750 band! Oh well!

It's okay if you're not into it. And it's completely okay if they priced it out of your budget. Your first post was very trollish though, because you vigorously slammed the thing before even seeing one in front of you. Seems that the root cause of your frustration is that Mesa is too costly where you live. That sucks, and I feel for you, but making assumptions about something you've probably never even seen because of personal bias is what a troll does.

+1

Bill

[El Supremo]

Re: more Mesa Boogie pedals

Have to agree that the 750Hz slider makes a tremendous difference and that Mesa's selection for frequencies and bandwith is spot on for their amps. Would like to hear the effect on another amp though.
Too bad I live on the wrong side of the pond. For all the coolness of the Mesa stuff, almost 300 Euros for an EQ is sadly just a bit (read: completely) over the top for me even considering the built quality.
Another option would be parametric EQ. Lets you tailor the specific frequencies (and bandwith in most cases) yourself. There's some in pedal form, though I haven't seen a 5 band. Upside on those is they're about 100 to 150 bucks less. The downside might be that you'll be tweaking more than you'll be playing with that kinda stuff going on.

[El Dunco]

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I like parametric equalizers for the fact that you can choose your own frequencies and bandwidth. I also happen to like my MXR 10 band. On the dunlop website it says "10 carefully chosen frequencies". If the frequencies they decided on are as myopic and arbitrary as some of you are saying, are dunlop guilty of false advertising?

[MetalManiac]

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THIS IS THE TONE THE METALMANIAC HAS ENVISIONED ALL HIS STUPID LIFE!!!!Thats it folks.Mesa Dual Recto and 5 band Eq! I have arrived! My tone quest has begun.;

[CTN]

Re: more Mesa Boogie pedals

You arrived 11,499 posts ago Jerry.

And your tone sucks.

Get a Marshall ya hoser.

[MetalManiac]

Re: more Mesa Boogie pedals

You arrived 11,499 posts ago Jerry.

And your tone sucks.

Get a Marshall ya hoser.

It may be becasue I am distruaght regarding Marshall. The other day, I heard a earlier 50 watt version of the Superlead I have. It was still a 72( point to point tagboard), like mine, but it had lay down transformers like the Hendrix 69 Plexis..IDK, and it just looked more vintage...more "transition PLEXI" than mine. BTW, it had provenence..it was from a guy from a 60's famous San Francisco acid rock heydey band called "Blue Cheer". It had been newly restored (recapped), and was otherwise all original. I heard it through a mint late 70's G12H30 Original Marshall checkerboard bottom cabinet. The tone was nothing short of astonishing.

In comparison, my original '72 Superlead Pont to point 100 watt sounds nothing like it.Teh fck?????Mine is way to clean..doesn't get near the great great breakup as the other one..on the other hand the cleans on mine were nicer, but who gives a fck? I don't own a Marshall for cleans. Basically, the "Blue Cheer" amp didn't really need to get all that blisteringly loud to deliver astonishing mind altering classic breakup. Maybe mine needs a recap, and to run to through two Marshall cabs? I don't know.

Alls I know is right now, mine doesn't even sound anything like that golden 50 watt Superlead, and thats not a good thing.

All that said, I need a Boogie, casue I want modern Hi gain!!!

[El Dunco]

Re: more Mesa Boogie pedals

That's how things are done nowadays. A technologically formidable combination with years of R&D with so much potential for greatness with insultingly none of it used.