roland gr 10- 20 - 55 where in the pedal chain?

[always SD]

Re: roland gr 10- 20 - 55 where in the pedal chain?

yes

i think it will be better with a special amp so, not with my pedalboard ))))

I played 3 times with the gp 10
i have it but i don't know it very well

there are several functions:
1) with soundcard: i must try

2) as a multi-effect with an amp: good for chorus, phaser and wah and more but yes, i must create a blank patch
and i don't like that
i know there is buffer but not any true bypass
i don't want to color my sound

i am not sure that i will bring this with a jcm 800 in the studio
i don't know
i like my pedals but i can try

3) with a pa system or an amp for synth : i have not this thing

4 ) with the gk 3 it will be better but with another kind of amp like i said before (not for guitar)


what i like with the gp 10 and gk 3 is:

12 strings guitar
acoustic guitars (Martin, Gibson )

banjo
sitar
another "metal acoustic guitar" like Knopfler used for romeo and juliet
national guitar

there are some synths but it's not as good as the gr 20
no strings ensemble (i like very much that)
there are old synths or waves or crystal
it's good but not amazing

the gr 20 has amazing sounds but some problems with tracking/latency and ghost notes


- i can have alternate tunings
a lot of amps
a lot of things to discover

the tracking, latency is excellent : no problem with the acoustic simulations
it's really great !

but i think i will buy a gr 55 because i like very much the strings

i know the gr 55 has less sounds that the gr 20 because they had COSM and other things
more than 900 sounds yes, but it's different

so i keep the gp 10 for the guitars simulation but i may sell it one day ! i will see

my main problem is to insert it in a pedalboard
to play with some sounds and with my traditional effects too
i don't want that my sound changes

with the gr 20 and gk 3 i could play with the gr20 and only with the guitar
it must be thought for the good settings
to have the synth sounds
and my pedalboard in action

i read that the gp 10 should be close to the amp : ok
or close to the guitar if i only want the multi effects

[Mincer]

Re: roland gr 10- 20 - 55 where in the pedal chain?

I would agree that with the GP-10 or even the GR-55, it should replace your whole pedalboard, and just get used to running into a ful range amp. Things get tricky when you try to interface it with a normal pedalboard. It is easier to just program the sounds you want out of it and keep everything simple.

[always SD]

Re: roland gr 10- 20 - 55 where in the pedal chain?

so, your advice is not to insert the gr 20, gp 10 or gr 55 into a pedalboard?
but with another amp?
yes it must be an easy solution but what i wanted to do is to have fun with the gk 3 = guitar +effets only

or guitar +roland gr only

this was possible with the gr 20 so i must think again about the settings

or i can wait for my new ehx MEL 9 with " the strings ensemble"+mellotron + choirs

another thing to think is that this Roland gr or others have a bypass?buffer? or nothing
so we must create a blank preset
empty preset ?
i don't like that very much

i am used to play with true bypass pedals except a Boss octaver and
i have one buffer pedal in my pedalboard too

or an A/B box
it's not easy when you use a delay with 2 outpouts too

[Mincer]

Re: roland gr 10- 20 - 55 where in the pedal chain?

Send all signals to a mixer, then you won't have to worry. Get 1 full range amp (2 for stereo) and use amp sims on the straight guitar sound (or ones from the GP-10). Easy, and no routing problems, or sound problems from messing with a guitar amp.

[always SD]

Re: roland gr 10- 20 - 55 where in the pedal chain?

i have not a mixer or pa system
i am at home and it's for my bedroom with my pedalboard
and 1 or 2 amps

[always SD]

Re: roland gr 10- 20 - 55 where in the pedal chain?

i would like to insert this unit in my pedalboard
to have 2 sounds with the gk 3 and that's what it was made for

my guitar +gr for intro
&
my guitar+pedals for a guitar solo for example

[Hank-]

Re: roland gr 10- 20 - 55 where in the pedal chain?

Look into the boss LS2. It will allow you to do what you want, check the manual for sample connection ideas/examples.

Edit: i could not find a manual online so here's out it would work:
Guitar>LS2 input, LS2 output> Amp input.
LS2 Send 'A'> GP10 input, GP10 output>LS2 Return 'A'
LS2 Send 'B'> Pedalboard input, Pedalboard output>LS2 Return 'B'

It will allow you to select A or B, A+B, and more.

[always SD]

Re: roland gr 10- 20 - 55 where in the pedal chain?

but i dit it only with the gk3

it worked but i must retry because in my last experiences it did not work

gk3 allows us to have roland gr only
roland gr + guitar
and the guitar without the roland gr = the clean sound