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  • stevie_bees
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    I believe the old white Volto has been discontinued, however there's a newer black one.

    http://www.pedaltrain.com/volto/

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  • Mincer
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    I like the battery pack idea. I know power supplies fail at the worst times (at a gig, yes, this has happened to me). But I have had the battery compartments ruined by leaking batteries in a hot car in the Florida summer. All it takes is a few hours in that car. Those battery packs are cheap, and in the coming years, rechargeable battery packs should go down in price.

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  • Blille
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    Originally posted by Hank- View Post
    That vertex unit is expensive. The Volto was discontinued, unless its reintroduced lately. Sanyo Pedal Juice is an alternative. There must be more options out there now. But if ya looking for UPS capability then not really a readymade solution available that I know of.

    I would suggest the trex fuel tank jr.(or its thomman clone). There are many others also.

    I had made my own psu using 12 AA NimH cells, been there, done that. Only benefit was clean power but no isolation from ground loops, which wasn't an issue since i plug everything up front in the amp. Right now I have a Joyo jp04 on my board for power.
    Those area great options, thanks. Given that I have a couple of 24V pedals I don't think I can just rely on any of them though, still need to be plugged in. So I'm just looking for backup.


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  • Blille
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    Thanks for all the feedback. Instead of leaving the batteries inside I'm going to go with the battery pack idea.

    The Volto is about $129 but as a backup and to essentially finish a set, I think this $5 battery pack that I can connect to the daisy chain will do perfectly I'll let you know how it goes.






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  • Hank-
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    Originally posted by Blille View Post
    That looks really cool for the tone connoisseur that prefers batteries. If i read it correctly it still needs to receive power to work if not it doesn't to avoid draining? So not sure it would work as backup.

    Want a power supply that gets best possible tone out of your pedals? What if the answer is 9V batteries? Believe it or not, some of the most discerning “tone-conscious” guitarists like Eric Johnson, Scott Henderson, Michael Landau, and Josh Smith (to name a few), all prefer cheap “Dollar Store” variety 9V carbon batteries over a DC power supply because of the sag and “amp-like” quality they impart on overdrive, distortion, fuzz, and wah pedals. The Battery Power Supply is designed for such “tone-purists” to use in tandem with a primary power supply for high current/voltage pedals (like a Voodoo Lab, Pedal Power), while the Battery Power Supply provides optimized 9V power to your favorite overdrive, distortion, fuzz, and/or wah pedals. Never again change a battery inside your pedals or disconnect an input jack to preserve battery life. The Battery Power Supply has a dedicated 9V input feed, accepting any external 9V power source that will only “ACTIVATE” the batteries when the input feed is receiving power, and “DISABLE” the batteries when power is disconnected. Plus, a battery can be changed in seconds by turning the single thumbscrew and removing the steel top of the Battery Power Supply.


    Going back to the battery pack idea, something like the pedaltrain volto looks ideal.


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    That vertex unit is expensive. The Volto was discontinued, unless its reintroduced lately. Sanyo Pedal Juice is an alternative. There must be more options out there now. But if ya looking for UPS capability then not really a readymade solution available that I know of.

    I would suggest the trex fuel tank jr.(or its thomman clone). There are many others also.

    I had made my own psu using 12 AA NimH cells, been there, done that. Only benefit was clean power but no isolation from ground loops, which wasn't an issue since i plug everything up front in the amp. Right now I have a Joyo jp04 on my board for power.

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  • eclecticsynergy
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    Spare power supply? Don't need a big one for five pedals.

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  • Little Pigbacon
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  • Demanic
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    Originally posted by Little Pigbacon View Post
    For me, one of the selling points of adapter power would be not having to access the battery compartments at all.
    In that case, remove the batteries to prevent unwanted surprises.

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  • Little Pigbacon
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    For me, one of the selling points of adapter power would be not having to access the battery compartments at all.

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  • Demanic
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    Nothing wrong with keeping batteries in as long as you check them, say, once a month.

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  • Blille
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    Originally posted by PFDarkside View Post
    Check out this gentleman's rig...


    I was (and am) doing it out of laziness...
    That looks really cool for the tone connoisseur that prefers batteries. If i read it correctly it still needs to receive power to work if not it doesn't to avoid draining? So not sure it would work as backup.

    Want a power supply that gets best possible tone out of your pedals? What if the answer is 9V batteries? Believe it or not, some of the most discerning “tone-conscious” guitarists like Eric Johnson, Scott Henderson, Michael Landau, and Josh Smith (to name a few), all prefer cheap “Dollar Store” variety 9V carbon batteries over a DC power supply because of the sag and “amp-like” quality they impart on overdrive, distortion, fuzz, and wah pedals. The Battery Power Supply is designed for such “tone-purists” to use in tandem with a primary power supply for high current/voltage pedals (like a Voodoo Lab, Pedal Power), while the Battery Power Supply provides optimized 9V power to your favorite overdrive, distortion, fuzz, and/or wah pedals. Never again change a battery inside your pedals or disconnect an input jack to preserve battery life. The Battery Power Supply has a dedicated 9V input feed, accepting any external 9V power source that will only “ACTIVATE” the batteries when the input feed is receiving power, and “DISABLE” the batteries when power is disconnected. Plus, a battery can be changed in seconds by turning the single thumbscrew and removing the steel top of the Battery Power Supply.


    Going back to the battery pack idea, something like the pedaltrain volto looks ideal.


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  • PFDarkside
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    Check out this gentleman's rig...


    I was (and am) doing it out of laziness...

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  • Blille
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    Cool idea. If it's just one thing I have to replace, I think it would be ok to do it manually.


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  • Little Pigbacon
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    I was thinking of a group of six C or D cell alkalines with the output connected to a coaxial plug that you could tie into the daisy chain instead of the normal power supply. But if you're looking for automatic switching in case of power supply failure, that would take a relay thrown into the mix.

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  • Blille
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    Originally posted by Hank- View Post
    Pretty much that. Inserting a DC plug generally disengages the battery in most pedals. So while they might not self drain, leakage of chemical from the battery can happen.

    It would be almost equal in price to buy a 1spot or set of batteries.
    I was hoping to hear people saying they've done this for years


    Originally posted by Little Pigbacon View Post
    What about a battery pack using common alkalines that you could sub in instead of a power supply?
    You mean like this thing?

    I was hoping for uninterrupted playing but that might be the next best thing. All my pedals need unscrewing so this would definitely save time and drama.



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