Re: noise gate
I think that I'm going to look into an ISP II G.
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Re: noise gate
Originally posted by MrFlexx View PostI use the MXR Smart Gate and it does the job really well. Before going all pedals I had a rack system loaded with stuff and then I used the Rocktron Hush IICX (one of the most famous gates of all times) and the MXR Smart Gate does the job just as good.
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I use the MXR Smart Gate and it does the job really well. Before going all pedals I had a rack system loaded with stuff and then I used the Rocktron Hush IICX (one of the most famous gates of all times) and the MXR Smart Gate does the job just as good.
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Depends where you want to eliminate the noise from, pre-amp, FX loop, etc.
I have the ISP Decimator and it works superbly well as well as the NS-2.
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I own both an NS2 and ISP Decimator and I found the NS2 to work better in the effects loop of my JSX hooked up in an x pattern cable method.
The Decimator works really well up front. I use that one with my JVM. One thing about the "tone suck" of the NS2 is that it's more of a edge/presence duller or signal softener effect. But it goes away I find with increased playing volume, but the effect can be noticeable moreso at lower volume levels. The amount of it, and how noticable it is can vary amp to amp and signal chain to signal chain.
When in the x pattern I found the NS2 actually slightly boosted my tone's presence and clairity.
My use of these are mainly to eliminate operating noise and hiss with rather conservative gate settings. Although they both handle high volume feedback very well too.Last edited by Van Noord; 04-24-2017, 11:56 AM.
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Originally posted by MkIII Renegade View PostThe Smart Gate definitely needs to be in the loop; works much better that way.
It does an amazing job of taming high gain WITHOUT sucking your tone away. I've heard the NS-2 does suck tone, which I can't accept.
just checking, when you say ( The Smart Gate definitely needs to be in the loop) you mean the effect loop from the amp yes/no ????
or do you mean making a loop on the pedal board to and from the smart gate, placing the pedals that are making the most noise in that loop ????
thanks for your time,
bluesfloyd,Last edited by bluesfloyd; 04-24-2017, 11:21 AM.
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Originally posted by Obsessive Compulsive View PostYes that's true. But when you play that noise is present again. So it's useless. Why not roll off the volume knob?
I am talking about a device that removes the noise entirely from the signal, kinda like that noise filtering feature in a recording software that takes a sample of certain frequencies (the noise) then removes them.
If the noise is caused by ground loops, the solution is grounding the whole system using a metal rod buried into the ground, connected to an idle jack behind the amp. That's true noise filtering.
The solution to ground loops is not to ground your rig better but to use a 1 to 1 transformer that removes any interference picked up by the ground.
If your rig is quiet enough you won't even need a noise pedal, but finding the source of the noise involves plugging in one piece at a time and seeing when and where noise is introduced into the system.
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I've got an ISP Decimator. Works great. Would love to try the version 2.
A buddy of mine has the EHX Silencer. It's ok, but it takes a bit longer to close than the Decimator.
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Originally posted by Obsessive Compulsive View PostHow is a noise gate supposed to remove the noise? It's a gate that keeps low db signals out. When you start playing the gate will open and there is that noise again.
What you need is a noise filter that works like baking soda, removing the noise entirely. But I don't know if such thing exists. Does Rocktron Hush work like that?
I agree a noise filter can help, I am personally looking to get myself EB Tech's HumX to try to remove the noise coming from the electrical outlet, and EB Tech's Hum Eliminator to avoid ground loop specially between my laptom and amp DI connection, all this for a more silent home recording.
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[QUOTE=I am talking about a device that removes the noise entirely from the signal, kinda like that noise filtering feature in a recording software that takes a sample of certain frequencies (the noise) then removes them.[/QUOTE]
That sounds more like a digital sampler to me.
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Originally posted by allstarrme View PostMost gates cut off the hum and buzz when you aren't playing, anything from stopping feedback to hard gating in short palm muted parts.
Some of the causes of hum are high gain and cheap components, but also the are unshielded cables, ground loops, interference picked up by racks, noisy guitars and other components.
To really quiet the noise every aspect of the amp, effects, cables and guitar should be investigated. A noise gate can be a bandaid on other problems in a noisy setup. In an optimized rig though it can be used much more sparingly and still help.
I am building a setup now with an isolated power distribution, balanced send and return cables, wireless inputs, very short cable connections, rack isolator tabs and quiet humbucking guitars. It still has a buzz on the distortion channel but that's what the gate is for.
I am talking about a device that removes the noise entirely from the signal, kinda like that noise filtering feature in a recording software that takes a sample of certain frequencies (the noise) then removes them.
If the noise is caused by ground loops, the solution is grounding the whole system using a metal rod buried into the ground, connected to an idle jack behind the amp. That's true noise filtering.Last edited by Obsessive Compulsive; 04-16-2017, 12:19 AM.
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Most gates cut off the hum and buzz when you aren't playing, anything from stopping feedback to hard gating in short palm muted parts.
Some of the causes of hum are high gain and cheap components, but also the are unshielded cables, ground loops, interference picked up by racks, noisy guitars and other components.
To really quiet the noise every aspect of the amp, effects, cables and guitar should be investigated. A noise gate can be a bandaid on other problems in a noisy setup. In an optimized rig though it can be used much more sparingly and still help.
I am building a setup now with an isolated power distribution, balanced send and return cables, wireless inputs, very short cable connections, rack isolator tabs and quiet humbucking guitars. It still has a buzz on the distortion channel but that's what the gate is for.
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How is a noise gate supposed to remove the noise? It's a gate that keeps low db signals out. When you start playing the gate will open and there is that noise again.
What you need is a noise filter that works like baking soda, removing the noise entirely. But I don't know if such thing exists. Does Rocktron Hush work like that?
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I just got an EHX Silencer
I really dig the three knob control
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