Using Artificial Intelligence to keep track of your pedal settings.

[Dave Locher]

This sounded like a really silly and complicated solution to a simple problem when I read the thread title so it is probably a solid winner!
(Seriously. It took forever for my wife to convince me to use Pinterest, for example. I think I am a pretty good opposite barometer for what will work in this realm and just reading through this thread made me go "oh, yeah!" a couple times.)

[nexion218]

Hey, I just signed up for the waiting list! Sorry if I missed it, but I am wondering if it can do the following:

1.: I find the Holy Grail settings on my my dirt pedal for using my guitar loaded with high output active pups, so I save it i nthis app
2.: Next day I play my other guitar, with medium output passives, so I tweak the dirt pedal. cause it's just not right with the previous settings.
3.: Then when I pick up my guitar with actives, I want to recreate the "holy grail" settings. Can I use the app to check if the settings I did are the same? I'm thinking checking the current physical settings against the saved virtual ones in the app.

[jdelva]

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By the way guys!

The official website for KnobsAI is up! and you can sign up for the beta. The app is coming for Android and iOS.

It would be awesome to have you guys try the app before the launch. There are limited spots!

You can sign up here: https://knobs.ai

[jdelva]

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This is great idea!

How I see myself using this; wouldn't it be not too hard to make it possible to store these as kind of cards for settings + notes (optionally audio attached too), that could be then scrolled like power point.

Being old-fashioned I didn't catch all the ideas in original post and don't care about connectivity, but that would be brilliant on it's own already.

Hey! The user will be able to scroll through all pedals but in order to see the settings, the user has to press on the image. That would open the setting and display the knobs. I can think of ways to show all this in a different manner just like what you are suggesting. Thanks for the answer!

Very cool. What's the incremental benefit over taking a photo and looking at the settings in that? Are you using the extracted knob positions in any meaningful way?

Now if you could magically model all those pedals in true fidelity based upon those settings (a big "if") or change the settings on the analog pedals (but if they were midi controlled, you probably wouldn't need this app), that would be interesting.

Still I like this...

The virtual knobs that the app generates can be tweaked in case you find a new sound or setting. That way you don't have to take another picture. You will be able to clone the settings in the app in case you have several settings for the same pedal. So after cloning a setting, you would tweak the knobs in the app to match your pedal's. Other than that they are just used for reference just like the picture.

About the other things that you are mentioning. Both have been on my mind and are certainly pretty interesting, but they are not possible at the moment. I'll keep them on my list for future releases for sure!

Thanks a lot!

[quadquadquadquad]

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Very cool. What's the incremental benefit over taking a photo and looking at the settings in that? Are you using the extracted knob positions in any meaningful way?

Now if you could magically model all those pedals in true fidelity based upon those settings (a big "if") or change the settings on the analog pedals (but if they were midi controlled, you probably wouldn't need this app), that would be interesting.

Still I like this...

[Jacew]

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This is great idea!

How I see myself using this; wouldn't it be not too hard to make it possible to store these as kind of cards for settings + notes (optionally audio attached too), that could be then scrolled like power point.

Being old-fashioned I didn't catch all the ideas in original post and don't care about connectivity, but that would be brilliant on it's own already.

[solspirit]

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Yeah.,. Well the problem is getting those setting correct for éveything we want to do.
When I do that I'll worry about saving them

[jeremy]

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I'm pretty sure that it was a unit that bolted on to his Fender Twin. I'll see if I can find a photo.

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the wizzer has been used by neil since since the late 70's with his old fender tweed deluxe. neil does use an old tweed twin sometimes too but the wizzer was designed for his old 5e3

[jdelva]

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Mesa Throttle Box

More quick demos to come!

[jdelva]

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Neunaber Expanse

[jdelva]

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MXR Stereo Chorus

[jdelva]

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Here are a couple more quick demos on other pedals in case you want to watch 'em!

EHX Little Big Muff Pi

[jdelva]

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Cool idea... You are offering a standardized way to handle pics of pedal settings. I think gathering that data could be very helpful for pedal designers, who could see using this "big data" what people are doing with their pedals. For example, if some pedal does not get used at all in a certain setting (with the knobs adjusted one way - say a TS and all the guitar players are using it with no drive sorta tone at noon and volume maxed), then the manufacturer may do a refinement accounting for this in the next version.

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That is a totally valid point! What you said also benefits the AI. The more pictures are provided to it, the better it can become at identifying knobs. Thanks for your answer!

This is a cool concept I could see a lot of people using but for me this is a total waste of time.

I turn the knobs until they sound good and I don't care to share my settings with the world :P

nice work tho.

It's all good! There are many guitarists that never change their pedals and that's totally fine! One reason why I'm making this idea public is to gather opinions and get to know how many guitarists would use the app so I can know before launch if it can succeed or not. I hope it does! haha

Is there any way to do this with digital pedals where there are multiple patches involved such as a delay unit like the Duncan Andromeda?

Yes! You'll be able to clone settings so you don't have to take multiple pictures of the same pedal. This way you just change the knobs in the app to match your different settings. I'm also adding a feature to group settings, so you can group them by pedal, by effect, by pedalboard, or whatever works for you.

So for example, let's say you have 5 settings you like on your Andromeda. Then in the app you can:

- Create a group called Andromeda Settings
- Take a picture of the pedal and let the app identify your first setting.
- Clone that setting 4 more times and tweak the knobs in the app so they match your Andromeda settings (but you can also just keep taking pictures and let the AI do everything).
- On each setting saved you can choose to save it in the Andromeda group.
- You'll then have your 5 settings under the same group.

What do you think? Let me know if that works for you or if you have any suggestion!

[Gtrjunior]

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Is there any way to do this with digital pedals where there are multiple patches involved such as a delay unit like the Duncan Andromeda?

[ArtieToo]

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Interesting.
About 30 years ago Neill Young had someone build him "the whizzer". Essentially it was a digital device that would turn the analog knobs on his amp to the exact place that a setting saved them to. I always wanted one.

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A local musician has asked me if I can build one. It's quite an ambitious project.

To the OP, cool idea. I'll be watching this.