Stacking Klones

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David Gilmour was pretty well known for stacking gain pedals. A lot of his fuzz sounds are a big muff into a just slightly gainy powerbooster or tube driver. I'm not sure if he does it to combine the character of the two pedals, to add mids, to cut some of the wilder highs/lows . . . but he definitely does it.

Typically you are going to get more of the character of the second pedal. It really depends on how you are dialing them in. The big thing so people are missing is the gain in both pedals can be set very subtly. The goal is not always to get face-melting tones.

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I've had fun doing it. But I've never NEEDED to do it. It was just for fun.

My first overdrive device was a Wollensak tape recorder.

There were no fuzz pedals or overdrive pedals available yet.

I plugged my guitar into the microphone input of my mom's Wollensak tape recorder (it had a PA setting) and then plugged one end of a guitar cord into the external speaker output and the other end into my Supro amplifier.

It made for a cool fuzz tone before the Maestro Fuzztone had shown up in music stores.

This would have been in the early 60's.

There was a Ventures tune called the 2000 Pound Bee that I liked.

They must have done something similar to get that sound.

I think Ritchie Blackmore used his AIWA reel-to-reel for the preamp. Adds a bit of compression and overdrive before it hit the 200 watt Marshall Majors. I think he is still using it into his signature ENGL these days, although his modern tone isn't nearly as good.

[GuitarStv]

David Gilmour was pretty well known for stacking gain pedals. A lot of his fuzz sounds are a big muff into a just slightly gainy powerbooster or tube driver. I'm not sure if he does it to combine the character of the two pedals, to add mids, to cut some of the wilder highs/lows . . . but he definitely does it.

[Lewguitar]

I've had fun doing it. But I've never NEEDED to do it. It was just for fun.

My first overdrive device was a Wollensak tape recorder.

There were no fuzz pedals or overdrive pedals available yet.

I plugged my guitar into the microphone input of my mom's Wollensak tape recorder (it had a PA setting) and then plugged one end of a guitar cord into the external speaker output and the other end into my Supro amplifier.

It made for a cool fuzz tone before the Maestro Fuzztone had shown up in music stores.

This would have been in the early 60's.

There was a Ventures tune called the 2000 Pound Bee that I liked.

They must have done something similar to get that sound.

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Bottomline is he and many other pros stack their overdrives

[Lewguitar]

its zz top, everything is about presentation on stage. theres a rig rundown that covers his setup. it sure aint a traditional blues setup but it doesnt have six expandoras. even if he had this as his "rig" im sure it was for show and marketing

Exactly. That's all a joke. Schtick. He does have a pretty complicated rig though.

[Mincer]

its zz top, everything is about presentation on stage. theres a rig rundown that covers his setup. it sure aint a traditional blues setup but it doesnt have six expandoras. even if he had this as his "rig" im sure it was for show and marketing

Yeah, no way I'd believe that diagram, or really, anything he told an interviewer about his rig.

[jeremy]

its zz top, everything is about presentation on stage. theres a rig rundown that covers his setup. it sure aint a traditional blues setup but it doesnt have six expandoras. even if he had this as his "rig" im sure it was for show and marketing

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Is this stacking overdrives an internet bedroom player thing only? Or are there actually well known pros doing it as well?

You are kidding me, right? Here is the Rev's set up I would call him the king of gain staging. But I think he only used this set up at home.

[Aceman]

I don't know about that. But I will say that Eddie Van Halen never used a distortion pedal. Let alone needed to stack them. But go ahead and buzz if you want to. I sure don't GAF.

No - he just used a completely modded Marshall all Variac'd etc. so let's don't act like he just plugged straight into a JCM 800 and made that sound.With the exception of a Flanger and Phaser pedal, everything in his signal chain between his fingers and the speakers was worked over, modded, tweaked, and god knows what else.

[formula73]

I don't know about that. But I will say that Eddie Van Halen never used a distortion pedal. Let alone needed to stack them. But go ahead and buzz if you want to. I sure don't GAF.

Well since EVH was the only guitarist that ever mattered to anybody, ever...

[Lewguitar]

Nah, nobody ever does that. It’s your way or the highway.

I don't know about that. But I will say that Eddie Van Halen never used a distortion pedal. Let alone needed to stack them. But go ahead and buzz if you want to. I sure don't GAF.

[formula73]

Is this stacking overdrives an internet bedroom player thing only? Or are there actually well known pros doing it as well?

I mean I've done it with my Klon and Dover Drive so I'm NOT putting myself in a different category than the rest of you.

But I've never done such a thing on a gig or felt the need to.

Nah, nobody ever does that. It’s your way or the highway.

[Demanic]

plenty of pros do it. its just a way of getting different levels of gain. core sound plus two flavors of drive that can also be stacked for another option. its nothing new.

Remember when Steve Vai was using that Gemini pedal?
I love stacking gain pedals.
But then, most of you already know that.

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[Lewguitar]

plenty of pros do it. its just a way of getting different levels of gain. core sound plus two flavors of drive that can also be stacked for another option. its nothing new.

I've had fun doing that at home. Never needed to do that on a gig.

I guess because my guitar sound on a gig doesn't rely on overdrive pedals and on the gigs I play a heavily overdriven tone is sort of frowned upon.

On a gig I wind up playing much cleaner than I do at home. It's just more appropriate.

But I have a ball rocking out and playing with overdrive at home!