Looking for a small yet versatile setup for church

[devastone]

For kicks, check out the Neunaber Neuron pedal. It is amazing and does a ton of things.

If I come across one I will. Lots of great pedal preamps out there. I used to use a AMT SS-11b, has 2 12AX7s running at full voltage, great sounding preamp, might have to look for a deal on one of those again if I commit to the pedalboard.

[devastone]

That sounds like a cool setup. You should be able to get what you need from it.

One of the other reasons for me to want to move away from an amp and cab is the “I’m getting old” thing. I just don’t want to lug the gear around anymore. Lol

Yep, the GT in a gig bag is nice, just walk in with 2 bags on my shoulder. I gave up 4-12s years ago.

[Bogner]

The quality of the models should be as good as the Kemper's profiles, the Amplifire stuff is pretty highly regarded, but the interface isn't the best. Definitely interested in hearing how it works for you.

I'm starting to go the opposite way, since I only use a couple of sounds, and am old and have an affinity for knobs, I'm putting together a pedalboard around an AMT Series 2 or SS pedal preamp (I have a P2 and a B2, and may pickup an S2). The built in cab sim on those is pretty good, granted, I haven't sampled dozens of IRs like a lot of guys, but it works for me, or might pick up a Digitech CabDryver or something to put on the board. I like the convenience of the GT's small footprint, so will probably play with both for a while and see what is more fun and productive to use. I will admit I get bad option anxiety with any of the modeling units.

For kicks, check out the Neunaber Neuron pedal. It is amazing and does a ton of things.

[Gtrjunior]

The quality of the models should be as good as the Kemper's profiles, the Amplifire stuff is pretty highly regarded, but the interface isn't the best. Definitely interested in hearing how it works for you.

I'm starting to go the opposite way, since I only use a couple of sounds, and am old and have an affinity for knobs, I'm putting together a pedalboard around an AMT Series 2 or SS pedal preamp (I have a P2 and a B2, and may pickup an S2). The built in cab sim on those is pretty good, granted, I haven't sampled dozens of IRs like a lot of guys, but it works for me, or might pick up a Digitech CabDryver or something to put on the board. I like the convenience of the GT's small footprint, so will probably play with both for a while and see what is more fun and productive to use. I will admit I get bad option anxiety with any of the modeling units.

That sounds like a cool setup. You should be able to get what you need from it.

One of the other reasons for me to want to move away from an amp and cab is the “I’m getting old” thing. I just don’t want to lug the gear around anymore. Lol

[devastone]

The quality of the models should be as good as the Kemper's profiles, the Amplifire stuff is pretty highly regarded, but the interface isn't the best. Definitely interested in hearing how it works for you.

I'm starting to go the opposite way, since I only use a couple of sounds, and am old and have an affinity for knobs, I'm putting together a pedalboard around an AMT Series 2 or SS pedal preamp (I have a P2 and a B2, and may pickup an S2). The built in cab sim on those is pretty good, granted, I haven't sampled dozens of IRs like a lot of guys, but it works for me, or might pick up a Digitech CabDryver or something to put on the board. I like the convenience of the GT's small footprint, so will probably play with both for a while and see what is more fun and productive to use. I will admit I get bad option anxiety with any of the modeling units.

[Gtrjunior]

These are the ones I bought...$38.

CAA C12. And of course I bought some comply foam replacement tips.

The Amplifire definitely was the gateway!
But now I have a backup to the Kemper should I ever need it.

[devastone]

I wanted to let you know that I took your advise on using a Marshall type tone for the overdrive sounds vs a Fender map model. Great advise. The plexi model is much, much better at all gain levels without any of that harshness I had with the Fender amp.

And secondly, I ended up ordering a pair of CAA IEMS. From what I understand they are made by KZ but are more for musicians etc.
The ones I got have 6 drivers per side. Hybrid driver system. I used them last night at the rock band rehearsal. They sounded phenomenal! I really liked the overall sound I got from them. Vocals sounded great and more importantly the guitar sounded well, like a guitar. Lol

And lastly, I ended up ordering the Kemper Stage yesterday. I’m very excited to get that up and running. I’ll update this thread once I run it through it’s paces.

Cool, glad the info was helpful. I've always leaned more toward Marshall overdriven sounds, especially when I want smoother tones, I mean, I love Nuno's tone on WFTP, but that will rip your head off and shred your eardrums, not exactly what I'm going for in church.

I'll have to look up those IEMs, I'm using TRNs, but I'm guessing they are all coming out of the same place in China.

Let us know about the Kemper, sounds like the Amplifire was just a gateway drug LOL. I hear the Amplifire sounds great, so let us know how they compare.

[Gtrjunior]

Planning Center and Music Stand work together, it's a team thing, and yes, we use them and the church has iPads for us to use and the charts and music are on it for us to access at home. I practice with my computer and have my GT-1K running through an M-Audio Air interface, so I can mix the guitar vs the songs. Since our new guy integrated worship online I have to use the online music, I much preferred mp3s so I could download them and pull them up in Sound Forge and isolate parts. But, on the plus side WO has isolated tracks for all the parts so pretty easy to learn them, and if you need a video lesson, those are available too, might not be the same key, but if there are parts you really can't get (quickly) it's helpful.

I'm sure they use it or something similar, again, don't overthink it before you start, they should give you the resources you need.

And yes, some of the big churches take it very seriously, they also pay the musicians so they can raise expectations.

I wanted to let you know that I took your advise on using a Marshall type tone for the overdrive sounds vs a Fender map model. Great advise. The plexi model is much, much better at all gain levels without any of that harshness I had with the Fender amp.

And secondly, I ended up ordering a pair of CAA IEMS. From what I understand they are made by KZ but are more for musicians etc.
The ones I got have 6 drivers per side. Hybrid driver system. I used them last night at the rock band rehearsal. They sounded phenomenal! I really liked the overall sound I got from them. Vocals sounded great and more importantly the guitar sounded well, like a guitar. Lol

And lastly, I ended up ordering the Kemper Stage yesterday. I’m very excited to get that up and running. I’ll update this thread once I run it through it’s paces.

[devastone]

Planning Center and Music Stand work together, it's a team thing, and yes, we use them and the church has iPads for us to use and the charts and music are on it for us to access at home. I practice with my computer and have my GT-1K running through an M-Audio Air interface, so I can mix the guitar vs the songs. Since our new guy integrated worship online I have to use the online music, I much preferred mp3s so I could download them and pull them up in Sound Forge and isolate parts. But, on the plus side WO has isolated tracks for all the parts so pretty easy to learn them, and if you need a video lesson, those are available too, might not be the same key, but if there are parts you really can't get (quickly) it's helpful.

I'm sure they use it or something similar, again, don't overthink it before you start, they should give you the resources you need.

And yes, some of the big churches take it very seriously, they also pay the musicians so they can raise expectations.

[Gtrjunior]

Yes, that was one of them for sure..

It's a cool product and well thought out -don't get me wrong -but for me, I can't imagine Church being so formal, so professional, so much pressure and so much business-like that it feels like going to a job for the purpose of what amounts to personal worship at the end of the day....

I mean, I get being organized -but man Mega Church worship team world is life or death before you even get to the life or death part of the sermon

I think you said the church you were involved with wasn't quit that level of seriousness -I live in the deep south -it's so...so... so serious here.

They aren’t. I was looking at finding an app specifically for me.
Some of the players use a tablet (not sure what app) and other still use paper.

As I looked into that app I realize that itā€™s meant for multiple players to utilize. Itā€™s not really ideal for just me to be using. Iā€™ll find another one.

[beaubrummels]

This is the one?

Yes, that's the one. If the sheet music is in PC, it should show up in Music Stand if you log in with the same account and navigate to the service you are assigned to play. It has a player built in so you can play the related MP3s from PC, while running through the sheet music, for personal practice. Just Bluetooth in AirTurn and it should take over flipping the pages. If you have an Apple pen, you can make your own annoations right on the sheet music, and if another guitar player already made notes for that song, you can 'apply' their notes on top of the sheet music instead.

This is my home practice setup: just an AirTurn and Zoom pedal on the board, straight into a Boss personal monitor for my guitar, then the iPad plays the tunes via Bluetooth into a Sony wireless speaker (on the flat stand just under the iPad in the picture).

[NegativeEase]

This is the one?

Yes, that was one of them for sure..

It's a cool product and well thought out -don't get me wrong -but for me, I can't imagine Church being so formal, so professional, so much pressure and so much business-like that it feels like going to a job for the purpose of what amounts to personal worship at the end of the day....

I mean, I get being organized -but man Mega Church worship team world is life or death before you even get to the life or death part of the sermon

I think you said the church you were involved with wasn't quit that level of seriousness -I live in the deep south -it's so...so... so serious here.

[Gtrjunior]

This is the one?

[Gtrjunior]

The mega churches I've done studio work for used a full integrated workflow scheduler application for their Worshio teams -everything from lyrics, chords. session notes, team schedules, church coordination, internal chat groups in one app -almost like a mobile version of MS Project Server and MS teams together in one app for Churches

Impressive, but a lot to take in considering what the goal is

Ha! That’s exactly what I was thinking. Kind of overkill...

[Gtrjunior]

Music Stand! That is the best integration with PC. I use an iPad as sheet music and an AirTurn DUO foot pedal to turn the pages.

I was thinking of using my tablet and possibly an air turn to do the same thing.
I’ll check out music stand...