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  • #16
    Don't forget impedance. Just as important. I'll make a new thread.
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    • #17
      It doesn't matter. Everyone is overthinking this. Just move your pedals around until you get a pleasant sound.


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      • #18
        My vfe ice-scream has adjustable input impedance,,,,,,,maybe the focus does also come to think of it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Securb View Post
          It doesn't matter. Everyone is overthinking this. Just move your pedals around until you get a pleasant sound.
          Can't beat a common sense approach to these things. I never thought about it either, but I'm also not a fuzz or vintage pedal guy.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Securb View Post
            It doesn't matter. Everyone is overthinking this. Just move your pedals around until you get a pleasant sound.
            If guitarists were after a pleasant sound, nobody would own a fuzz pedal. :P
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            • #21
              Originally posted by dave74 View Post
              My vfe ice-scream has adjustable input impedance,,,,,,,maybe the focus does also come to think of it.
              Put it first in line, get a nice amp tone going where the pedal pushes it into distortion. Try the impedance all the way up and all the way down and roll your volume back in both cases to see how it interacts.

              Usually if it’s a high input impedance it’ll be fine anywhere in the chain, the lower impedance will cause more interesting things to occur which could be beneficial or not based on what you want.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by GuitarStv View Post

                If guitarists were after a pleasant sound, nobody would own a fuzz pedal. :P
                I posted it above, but when I realized a Fuzz Face was a schmitt trigger things made a lot of sense.
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                • #23
                  Do you find your tone even needs a buffer? Or are you just trying to make Josh happy? He's in the business of selling pedals.
                  I play single coil Fenders into Fender amps, there's more than enough "bright" going on that I don't mind a little loss of hi end.
                  No buffer's for me!
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                  • #24
                    Metalzone doesn't care where you put it in the chain. I have mine in the middle before the clean boost.

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                    • #25
                      I have my Metalzone in the bowels of hell with all knobs pointing straight down! Still an integral part of my chain though, just requires very long cables.

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                      • #26
                        I did notice my long cheap braided cables darken the sound a bit
                        the 20 ft George L cable doesn't do that
                        But it tangles much quicker than the big cheap braided musicians gear


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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ehdwuld View Post
                          I did notice my long cheap braided cables darken the sound a bit
                          the 20 ft George L cable doesn't do that
                          But it tangles much quicker than the big cheap braided musicians gear

                          Yeah, the George Ls do sound clean and clear, but they are a mess to deal with if they tangle.
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                          • #28
                            As always - let your EARS be the final judge. After all of this arranging and rearranging to get the correct settings:

                            - It may all sound the same either way
                            - It may sound better with the buffers
                            - It may sound worse

                            Physics is physics, and sound is sound. Somethings they can be more or less related. YMMV

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Aceman View Post
                              As always - let your EARS be the final judge. After all of this arranging and rearranging to get the correct settings:

                              - It may all sound the same either way
                              - It may sound better with the buffers
                              - It may sound worse

                              Physics is physics, and sound is sound. Somethings they can be more or less related. YMMV
                              so you just gonna play the field and not commit to any opinion

                              "everything is right"

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                              • #30
                                What’s your current complete signal path? Which pedals are you using?

                                EDIT: Aceman wasn’t saying “everything is right”, he was saying that what’s right for one person and their setup is not necessarily right for someone else.

                                Play the guitar through your pedalboard, but without any pedals on (unless they’re normally always on); then plug the guitar straight into the amp, and see if it sounds better. If it sounds better straight into the amp, you might need a buffer.
                                Last edited by CaptainWhizz; 09-21-2021, 04:15 PM.

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