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  • #31
    Originally posted by Chistopher View Post
    Tons of gain from one source is definitely quite a different vibe than stacking 2 or three gain stages. If I were to design a pedal with goofy amounts of distortion, it wouldn't look much like anything I currently see on the market.
    In my experience, trying to get a lot of gain from one source often leads to a fizzy sound. Gain staging, however, tightens and compresses the signal while keeping it wide and full, avoiding those over-compressed, thin guitar tones reminiscent of the '80s.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by El Dunco View Post

      That’s just a sidebar I thought people might find useful or interesting. I wouldn’t claim to know what you want better than you. I don’t necessarily think less gain is automatically better anyway. You can have too little for what you’re trying to do just as easily.

      The TT is a good example. There’s a few reasons the Classic isn’t right for what you want, too little gain is probably most of them while the Mayhem is too whatever the Mayhem is meant to be. Fuzzy, sputtery, brittle? It would probably be amazing for doom metal bands.
      For the record - I do agree, less gain than most think usually sounds better...for most everything.
      Originally posted by Bad City
      He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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      • #33
        Well, I got my MD-2 in yesterday and so far, I really like it. It's like a beefier DS-1 with more chug. The 2-stage distortion/gain boost thing is pretty interesting. I don't think I've ever seen that on a pedal before. Boss has some clever people for sure.

        I tried running it into an IR loader to see if it does the preamp thing, but it does not. Not nearly enough output for that. I had to a put a separate preamp in between to get it to sound right. I tried running the MD-2 into a JHS Clover preamp, then into the IR loader, and it sounded great that way.

        Overall, a fine addition to my collection.

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        • #34
          Have you looked at the MXR 5150 Overdrive? It may say overdrive on it but it can chug with the best of them. There's a serious level of gain on tap. Plus BMT tone stack and a noise gate.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ErikH View Post
            Have you looked at the MXR 5150 Overdrive? It may say overdrive on it but it can chug with the best of them. There's a serious level of gain on tap. Plus BMT tone stack and a noise gate.
            Almost put it on the original list. I do love 5150 tones...I guess I consider a preamp model in a box.
            Originally posted by Bad City
            He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Aceman View Post

              Almost put it on the original list. I do love 5150 tones...I guess I consider a preamp model in a box.
              It is a preamp in a box and it isn't. I've ran it in to the effects loop of my amps and it honestly sounds way better going to the front end input. That's what it was made for.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Securb View Post
                In my experience, trying to get a lot of gain from one source often leads to a fizzy sound. Gain staging, however, tightens and compresses the signal while keeping it wide and full, avoiding those over-compressed, thin guitar tones reminiscent of the '80s.
                QFT


                FWIW same principle applies to compression as well. Two 4:1 compressors in series sounds way more transparent and natural than one 8:1 slamming compressor where you hear the one box working.

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                • #38
                  I plugged in the BOSS Mega Distortion yesterday. It is a bit grainier than I remember but in a good way. Lot of EQ on tap and plenty of room for gain. Trying to find a new flavor for the next recording session I am getting ready to play around with my CAE today

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                  • #39
                    Is that boost pre or boost or switchable?
                    Originally posted by Bad City
                    He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Aceman View Post
                      Is that boost pre or boost or switchable?
                      It is fixed post-overdrive, which is how I typically use a boost and dirt stomp.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Securb View Post

                        It is fixed post-overdrive, which is how I typically use a boost and dirt stomp.
                        So dirt and then boost for solo. Cool. That's what I do with a serious dirt box.
                        Originally posted by Bad City
                        He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Aceman View Post

                          So dirt and then boost for solo. Cool. That's what I do with a serious dirt box.
                          I always have the boost on to help shape the overdrive. You know I love my gain staging. I use a VOL pedal, so I just rock forward when I want to come up in the mix.

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                          • #43
                            I think you could do far worse than this. While it is primarily designed for use with power amps or into an FX return it sounds fantastic into the front end a high headroom clean amp too.



                            The Soldano SLO Pedal is likewise an amazing option with great tone.

                            Last edited by Hiwatts and Gibsons; 07-17-2024, 12:21 PM.

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                            • #44
                              OK, that AMT box is evil. And I mean that in a good way...
                              Originally posted by Bad City
                              He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Securb View Post

                                In my experience, trying to get a lot of gain from one source often leads to a fizzy sound. Gain staging, however, tightens and compresses the signal while keeping it wide and full, avoiding those over-compressed, thin guitar tones reminiscent of the '80s.
                                Let's build a pyramid.

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