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Were Randy Rhoads on the Dairy Of A Madman album effects post?

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  • JMP/HBE
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    Im the age where i can remember when there were only [5] FX pedals for guitar. Now there are 7.7 billion and only 1/3rd worth a sh*t.
    Not all pedals are created equal.
    Last edited by JMP/HBE; 08-25-2024, 04:37 AM.

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  • Mincer
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    Originally posted by JMP/HBE View Post
    How hard is it to use an echoplex LOL.
    Set & forget.
    Tommy Bolin had his attached to his mic stand so he could constantly manipulate it.

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  • omni 1
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    I remember picking up the album the day it came out. I had not listened in years to it and put it on and started thinking about it. I remember High and Dry came out the same day. Great times! I was lucky enough to grab em both!

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  • Securb
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    Originally posted by JMP/HBE View Post
    How hard is it to use an echoplex LOL.
    Set & forget.
    He used it mainly for his guitar solo and had the roadie changing delay setting during the solo.

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  • JMP/HBE
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    Originally posted by maug2122 View Post

    I seen Randy with QR back in the day.
    Seen him 5+ times with Ozzy.
    I love the way Max Norman mixed both B.O.Z. & D.O.A.M.M.
    But Max didn't capture Rhoads's tone too well on the first one, some tracks sounded like the guitar was stuck on a Wah Wah pedal.
    Second outing was an improvement over the first.
    Live , Rhoads's guitar tone was huge, probably mixed think Flanging with Chourus.
    It was 43 years ago.
    What you expect ?
    The cocked wah was intentional by Rhoads. Thats a thing.

    Last edited by JMP/HBE; 08-24-2024, 05:59 PM.

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  • JMP/HBE
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    How hard is it to use an echoplex LOL.
    Set & forget.

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  • maug2122
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    Originally posted by Securb View Post

    Even back in the Quiet Riot days, Randy had a roadie backstage operating his Echoplex, so that is entirely possible.
    I seen Randy with QR back in the day.
    Seen him 5+ times with Ozzy.
    I love the way Max Norman mixed both B.O.Z. & D.O.A.M.M.
    But Max didn't capture Rhoads's tone too well on the first one, some tracks sounded like the guitar was stuck on a Wah Wah pedal.
    Second outing was an improvement over the first.
    Live , Rhoads's guitar tone was huge, probably mixed think Flanging with Chourus.

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  • JMP/HBE
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  • Securb
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    Originally posted by devastone View Post
    The sound man was probably adding some of the delay live too, that was even before effects loops were a normal thing in amps.
    Even back in the Quiet Riot days, Randy had a roadie backstage operating his Echoplex, so that is entirely possible.

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  • Mincer
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    Originally posted by devastone View Post

    That's what I was trying to say, everything in front of the amp would have been in there, verbs, delays, and other post amp stuff was probably added later. The sound man was probably adding some of the delay live too, that was even before effects loops were a normal thing in amps.
    Oh gotcha. I think pedal delays/chorus/etc would be too noisy for the studio to use his pedalboard. They probably patched him into some good rack stuff, which absolutely existed then.

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  • devastone
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    Originally posted by Mincer View Post

    Well, it certainly wasn't reamping back then, but the producer could have patched in outboard stuff as he was recording. It might not have all come from his pedalboard. His live sound is pretty different to me than his recorded sound.
    That's what I was trying to say, everything in front of the amp would have been in there, verbs, delays, and other post amp stuff was probably added later. The sound man was probably adding some of the delay live too, that was even before effects loops were a normal thing in amps.

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  • Mincer
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    Originally posted by devastone View Post
    Those albums were in the late 70s/early 80s and recorded to tape, they didn't even have computers in the studio then, the computers that existed then would have been usesless for audio work. I'm 99% sure he used his pedalboard, they may have run the guitar though a plate reverb and some offboard compression, but they didn't do reamping back then. I doubt he could have gotten the same feel recording dry tracks into the board.
    Well, it certainly wasn't reamping back then, but the producer could have patched in outboard stuff as he was recording. It might not have all come from his pedalboard. His live sound is pretty different to me than his recorded sound.

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  • JMP/HBE
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  • devastone
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    Those albums were in the late 70s/early 80s and recorded to tape, they didn't even have computers in the studio then, the computers that existed then would have been usesless for audio work. I'm 99% sure he used his pedalboard, they may have run the guitar though a plate reverb and some offboard compression, but they didn't do reamping back then. I doubt he could have gotten the same feel recording dry tracks into the board.

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  • Hiwatts and Gibsons
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    Originally posted by JMP/HBE View Post

    Recording w/a Marshall stack. my guy !
    I know all his stuff was double tracked.
    He was so tight and in the pocket as a player. No digital playing with the timing or tuning. 100% incredible technique and ear by one of if not the greatest metal guitarist of all time

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