Boss SDE-3

[jeremy]

that was directed at me, not the general guitar population

[donaldr]

To be fair - what do you generally play that needs delay?

Have a look at Steve Lukather's rig rundown 2024...

[eclecticsynergy]

I'm quite happy with the Alexander delays - using a Quadrant on the small board and a History Lesson on the larger one.
Four presets is exactly enough for me, especially given tap tempo & a voltage pedal to sweep between two sets of settings in each preset.

First preset is a crisp doubler with just a hint of modulation (pedal down turns this into a straight, slightly gritty slapback)
Second preset is a single repeat for lead lines: either warm / medium length / almost subliminal, or brighter / longer / more noticeable
Third preset is pristine rhythmic digital delay, with the pedal varying the amount of regen from just a few to nearly infinite repeats
The last is classic dirty-analog flyaway echo, here the pedal sweeps pitch/time (at max delay, it also rolls back the regen a bit, for a natural trailoff).

Both delays' knobs have a second set of functions so you actually have eight controls, all stored as part of a preset.
Control pedal can be assigned in each preset to any knob functions - just one, or a couple, or all.
Both delays also feature an adjustable spillover function assignable to any presets where you want.
The two pedals behave a lot alike - while the Hist Lesson offers a few extra modes & capabilities, tweaking either box is much the same.

[These can store/recall 12 presets via MIDI, but I only use MIDI in my rack rig; that pedalboard is just program change & two control pedals, no stompboxes.]

[jeremy]

yes, ive heard music.

[Aceman]

nothing other than overly indulgent solos for the most part. a little slap back at times, a little ambiance or extra thickness when playing in a trio, but mostly the wanking

Some forms of music are very delay laden, requiring specific delays for "That" sound

For example, the 321ms Van Halen Slap, the Edge dotted 8ths, etc....

[jeremy]

nothing other than overly indulgent solos for the most part. a little slap back at times, a little ambiance or extra thickness when playing in a trio, but mostly the wanking

[Aceman]

i have two delays on my big board, one analog and one digital with tap tempo. gets me through any thing i need delay for

To be fair - what do you generally play that needs delay?

[jeremy]

i have two delays on my big board, one analog and one digital with tap tempo. gets me through any thing i need delay for

[Aceman]

All of this "on the fly" is why I had 4 delays on my board. No "on the fly" changes live.

Or - just get a programmable.

Anyway - it's a lot of delay for a single stomp. And it does have tap tempo.

[Mincer]

Currently, I either use presets on an HX Effects, or a DL4 mkII.

[Securb]

The only things I usually change 'on the fly' with delays is tap tempo, but I could get by with a set-and-forget thing.

Before the H90 I would sometimes need to change the delay time on the Carbon Copy depending on the song, usally bouncing between slapback and multitap. I could easily roll that knob with my foot with the MXR. Now we have two songs with duel delays both very diffeent settings. There is no way I could make those adjustments between songs. With the H90 simply need to bank up to what I want and I have my MXR like slapback and multitap setting in there now also. The Carbon Copy is now on my bass player's board.

[Mincer]

The only things I usually change 'on the fly' with delays is tap tempo, but I could get by with a set-and-forget thing.

[Securb]

It sounds cool but I like to run duel delays in parrallel. Also trying to manipulate those duel knobs on the fly is challenging. I have them on my BOSS Mega Distortion which is set it and forget it. With a delay I am making adjustments through the set. I also do not see an option to use one delay at a time, could be there I just don't see it.

[ErikH]

Yeah, that looks way cool. I'm not in the market for another delay but if I was, that one would be on the list.

[Mincer]

I saw a few demos of it today, and it sounds fantastic. Boss/Roland has a ton of delay pedals these days, from the regular stompboxes to the more complex preset-based ones. I'd love to hear how this one compares to others in the lineup.