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    Can anyone explain (as best as possible with words) what 'thin,' 'muddy,' 'fat,' 'warm,' mean concerning pickup tones?
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    Re: Terminology explanation?

    'thin,' - lacking body, usually trebly without bass, and lacking harmonics

    'muddy,' - lacking articulation, such a Les Paul on the neck position, when the output is overpowering the articulation

    'fat,' - full tone, lots of lower mids and lows, with full rich harmonic content

    'warm,' - rich in mids and lows, without any piercing highs
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    • #3
      Re: Terminology explanation?

      Originally posted by Curly
      'thin,' - lacking body, usually trebly without bass, and lacking harmonics

      'muddy,' - lacking articulation, such a Les Paul on the neck position, when the output is overpowering the articulation

      'fat,' - full tone, lots of lower mids and lows, with full rich harmonic content

      'warm,' - rich in mids and lows, without any piercing highs
      I was going to chime in,but Curly explained it very nicely! What Curly said!

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        I agree 100% w/those definitions ...
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          Re: Terminology explanation?

          lol curly's definitions should go in the FAQ of SD.
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          • #6
            Re: Terminology explanation?

            thin is self explanatory,it means the overall tone is tinny,maybe too bright as well
            muddy to me means not a whole lot o clarity like too much bass drowning out the highs and mids.
            like if you play a big chord with a lot of overdrive the notes will all bleed into one another
            A good clarity pup will allow you to play a big suspended bar chord and still you will hear every note in that chord even with a lot of distortion.
            fat is a big warm tone that still has good definition, usually the treble is rolled back a bit and the mids and bass are higher.
            warm is to me a les paul tone like most les paul players get, it is fat,bigsounding
            and just has a warm feeling about it even when you are playing the highest E note

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            • #7
              Re: Terminology explanation?

              Originally posted by nuntius
              lol curly's definitions should go in the FAQ of SD.
              Thanks,
              Gearjoneser put together a very nice list of tone terms for amps and guitars on the old board that got lost from the vault, unfortunately.
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                Re: Terminology explanation?

                Originally posted by Curly
                Gearjoneser put together a very nice list of tone terms for amps and guitars on the old board that got lost from the vault, unfortunately.
                Gearjonser's knowlege and first-hand experience are an asset to this forum ... and his mental data base intimidates me!! lol
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