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  • Lightning
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    ampge sells a tape...think that's it?

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  • Fusion1
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    Lightning no I wasn't that worried I just thought the clip was funny. :-)

    BTW thats the original tape on there, I never removed it. You can buy that tape but I don't know if 3M will sell small quantities. You probably need to buy a case or something.

    I inquired to them about purchasing some rolls last year and they let me have some samples. It's the same kind of fabric tabe and it looks great.

    Might be a good idea on here if people wanted to buy some to get a group together to go in on a purchase in quantity, otherwise it's going to be hard to find a retailer like stew mac or allparts selling this 3m #11 tape, since they don't.

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  • Lightning
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    Didn't mean to push the panic button. I thought you'd been working on it and that was a temp tape job. I was going to ask where you got the tape. If that clip captures the essence of your reaction…Sorry Man…but that is funny though.

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  • Benjy_26
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    No problem-o brotha!

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  • Fusion1
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    Benjy, ok good to know. It was my first Trembucker, so I didn't know they were different in that regard to normal spaced Duncans. Thanks.

    Lightning you got me to hit the panic button like this animation I saw today: Tom Ridge: Minister of Fear

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  • Benjy_26
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    Originally posted by Fusion1
    Lightning, good eye there. I didn't really notice that till you mentioned it. From the looks of it there is no tape around the coils themselves, just the fabric tape around both coils. I guess I should contact the person I bought this from to make sure it wasn't defective or anything. It measures out at 8.83k, so that seems fine. The pickup doesn't look like the tape has ever been removed, so maybe this is one that slipped through the cracks @ SD and the copper wirees never got covered. Who knows?

    That's how trembuckers look normally. My CC trembucker is the same.

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  • Lightning
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    Wow...

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  • Fusion1
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    Lightning, good eye there. I didn't really notice that till you mentioned it. From the looks of it there is no tape around the coils themselves, just the fabric tape around both coils. I guess I should contact the person I bought this from to make sure it wasn't defective or anything. It measures out at 8.83k, so that seems fine. The pickup doesn't look like the tape has ever been removed, so maybe this is one that slipped through the cracks @ SD and the copper wirees never got covered. Who knows?

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  • Lightning
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    Fusion, To the left of the pic on the non logo coil...

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  • Fusion1
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    With a thin veneer it probably won't dull the sound too much. But then again people claim there is a difference between a covered and uncovered pickup so this debate will never be settled.

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  • The Fog
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    Thanks all for your time and thoughts.

    This is for appearance only.
    Can I cover solid poles with no impact on sound?
    I may just fabr. tops and go directly on to top of
    existing covers. My preference would be to take
    some of the thickness away from current tops.

    It is becoming clearer what I will do. All comments help.

    Unfortunately the gloss black plastic does not compliment
    my guitar. I made pickup "holders" and knobs from ebony.
    All plastic is nearly gone from my home made guitar!

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  • Fusion1
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    Originally posted by Lightning
    Fusion, what's up with the exposed coil wire in the pic?
    Huh?

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  • Lightning
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    Little experience with milling (guitar projects mainly) and am concerned with the clamping and the plastic contorting under the cutters impact (I'm thinking belt sand).

    If your comfortable with milling I'd suggest removing the poles. I thought about adding spacers and pushing the poles down but due to the taper of the bobbin screws backing them out to add a spacer would weaken there hold which comes back to the impact of the cutter.

    By the way, there is tape around both coils and around the individual coils so it's cool to take the outer layer off (if you remove the tape off the inter coils the glue is stronger than the coil wire and you'll lose a couple hundred ohms of coil wire (there is a technique for that) but you don't need to remove it anyhow.

    Veneer is around .030" and a popsicle stick is around .080". The top of the bobbin is .060". If you do that math plus the labor savings veneer sounds like the way to go.

    I would use polyurethane to adhere the veneer to the bobbin as well as finish it cause I would think it want eat the polyurethane insulation on the coil wire...I think...wouldn't use just any glue unless you know it's going to be safe on poly.

    It's inevitable that glue is going to make it to the coil either through the window on top or capillary action on the tape seam. What are your thoughts on glue type?

    Fusion, what's up with the exposed coil wire in the pic?
    Last edited by Lightning; 07-29-2004, 09:04 PM.

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  • Fusion1
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    +1 for the veneer. I don't think you'd need to mill the plastic at all. Those bobbin toppers are basically a similar idea, but the veneer might be trickier, but if you have patience, I'm sure it will turn out great!

    The slugs do press out. Here is a pic of a '59 Trembucker that I staggered the slugs. Haven't tried it out but I can't see it sounding bad.

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  • ArtieToo
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    If this is just for looks, why not just attach a thin veneer to the top of the plastic part. You could then adjust the pole pieces up just a bit to maintain a "normal" look.

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