EVH fender $25,000 frankenstrat duncan pickup

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The 78' sounds every bit as good if not better with the right amp and effects. I think if I were able to plug my ash Strat/78' into that rig, it would sound even better.

Well, I've had a '78 in one of my guitars, and it's a cool pickup but I still want these BlisterBuckers. There's something awesomely different about 'em.
 
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it's a shame people are soooo hung up on van halen's tone...
on another note wouldn't it be cool if duncan made a super 70s style pickup:naughty:
that just might nail some early vh tones.
 
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"We cant sell the Frankenstein pickup because it's a Fender-EVH exclusive. However, we developed a Custom Shop pickup that has a similar sound, but using different magnet wire and a different magnet -- degaussed Alnico 2. We call it the IM1. It's available for $180 with aged cosmetics or $160 non-aged."
 
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"We cant sell the Frankenstein pickup because it's a Fender-EVH exclusive. However, we developed a Custom Shop pickup that has a similar sound, but using different magnet wire and a different magnet -- degaussed Alnico 2. We call it the IM1. It's available for $180 with aged cosmetics or $160 non-aged."
very cool,tell us more about it?what does it measure in ohms?i know the blisster bucker copy is a fully charged alnico2...
 
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Very cool info from MJ! Degaussed A2 sounds really great -- woody, organic, and clear, but still warm.
 
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Just give it up bro... even if you aren't shill'in... Just stop.

Make a new name and start over... no one is gonna take you as a serious poster on here.

You got the attention of one of the main production workers in the custom shop. Someone had to give her a heads up to come in here.

No doubt. His act is getting tired in a big hurry
 
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Just give it up bro... even if you aren't shill'in... Just stop.

Make a new name and start over... no one is gonna take you as a serious poster on here.

You got the attention of one of the main production workers in the custom shop. Someone had to give her a heads up to come in here.

not here to make you happy,you dont like it,dont reply to my post..
 
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Very cool info from MJ! Degaussed A2 sounds really great -- woody, organic, and clear, but still warm.

if the pickup sounds like the fender EVH guitar pickup,it will be amazing.its the best pickup i have played for the vintage EVH sound...wish i had recording gear...
john
 
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Hmm...Okay I'll bite-here it goes:

While this kind of drama is fun for some, the easiest way I can characterize Eddie's pickup history is to repeat what's been said many times. Although he's used countless pickups over the decades, there are two "main" styles. The first is an overwound P.A.F. style with a few tricks. When someone wants that kind of sound, we refer them to the '78, which matches a wire/wind/tension/traverse/magnet/magic recipe Seymour originated back at that time. There are many pickup companies now who seem to have attempted to reverse engineer that style of pickup. I can't count the times I've seen "brown" and "1978" in other people's ads, including those selling imported pickups!" I'm sure they are all nice pickups, but Seymour MJ, and Derek happen to work for us, not them. The only place you'll find them is in our Custom Shop. Therefore, the only place you'll find the Seymour Duncan Custom Shop '78 is right here. Like all copies, some are good, some are not.

The second style of pickup is a higher output pickup, again with a few tricks. The three days Eddie spent here in Santa Barbara yielded many great stories, but also some revelations, and today we have a pickup in the Frankenstein guitar that is not available anywhere else. There could come a day when Eddie himself makes that pickup available to the general public. For now, it is not.

To suggest that someone has "nailed" that pickup when it is only available in a $25k guitar seems a bit silly. Did someone let you take the pickup out of their $25k guitar and inspect it? Did you see what the wire gauge/coating/coating thickness was? What was the winding tension? Is it a butyrate bobbin? Is there a Maple spacer in there or a plastic one? Is it potted? At what temperature? Is it "fully" potted? (hmm, what does that mean?) What's the gauss reading? Does it have normal P.A.F. slugs? I could go on and on.

Seymour, MJ, and Derek understand what that pickup is, and although I know many things about it, even I couldn't duplicate it based on what I know. To suggest that someone (who is NOT Seymour) listened to the pickup and perhaps took a resistance reading (which tells you nearly nothing by the way) has magically made a replica sounds pretty sophmoric. The pickup may be wonderful. Many boutique pickup makers in garage shops make good sounding pickups. I made good sounding pickups in my garage too. But I never would be so arrogant as to consider anything I did on par with the Seymour Duncan Custom Shop.

Everything else in this thread I can deal with, but frankentone-Don't ask MJ to tell you "more about" the IM1. It seems disingenuous. If you want one, call her and order one. You will probably like it. Until then, if you want to tell us how great Motor City copies of our pickups are (like other "user names" before you) then we'll let the public decide if they are interested in hearing about it, because that's what we do here. I wish you luck. Everyone else-please be respectful, or let the thread die.
 
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Hmm...Okay I'll bite-here it goes:

While this kind of drama is fun for some, the easiest way I can characterize Eddie's pickup history is to repeat what's been said many times. Although he's used countless pickups over the decades, there are two "main" styles. The first is an overwound P.A.F. style with a few tricks. When someone wants that kind of sound, we refer them to the '78, which matches a wire/wind/tension/traverse/magnet/magic recipe Seymour originated back at that time. There are many pickup companies now who seem to have attempted to reverse engineer that style of pickup. I can't count the times I've seen "brown" and "1978" in other people's ads, including those selling imported pickups!" I'm sure they are all nice pickups, but Seymour MJ, and Derek happen to work for us, not them. The only place you'll find them is in our Custom Shop. Therefore, the only place you'll find the Seymour Duncan Custom Shop '78 is right here. Like all copies, some are good, some are not.

The second style of pickup is a higher output pickup, again with a few tricks. The three days Eddie spent here in Santa Barbara yielded many great stories, but also some revelations, and today we have a pickup in the Frankenstein guitar that is not available anywhere else. There could come a day when Eddie himself makes that pickup available to the general public. For now, it is not.

To suggest that someone has "nailed" that pickup when it is only available in a $25k guitar seems a bit silly. Did someone let you take the pickup out of their $25k guitar and inspect it? Did you see what the wire gauge/coating/coating thickness was? What was the winding tension? Is it a butyrate bobbin? Is there a Maple spacer in there or a plastic one? Is it potted? At what temperature? Is it "fully" potted? (hmm, what does that mean?) What's the gauss reading? Does it have normal P.A.F. slugs? I could go on and on.

Seymour, MJ, and Derek understand what that pickup is, and although I know many things about it, even I couldn't duplicate it based on what I know. To suggest that someone (who is NOT Seymour) listened to the pickup and perhaps took a resistance reading (which tells you nearly nothing by the way) has magically made a replica sounds pretty sophmoric. The pickup may be wonderful. Many boutique pickup makers in garage shops make good sounding pickups. I made good sounding pickups in my garage too. But I never would be so arrogant as to consider anything I did on par with the Seymour Duncan Custom Shop.

Everything else in this thread I can deal with, but frankentone-Don't ask MJ to tell you "more about" the IM1. It seems disingenuous. If you want one, call her and order one. You will probably like it. Until then, if you want to tell us how great Motor City copies of our pickups are (like other "user names" before you) then we'll let the public decide if they are interested in hearing about it, because that's what we do here. I wish you luck. Everyone else-please be respectful, or let the thread die.

i would contact wade from motorcity pickups with your questions.from what wade told me,a company that he makes pickups for has the $25k guitar.they took the pickup out and sent it to him to copy it.you would have to ask him about the details,i dont know.i have a frankie copy guitar,i put his blisster in it and went to a high end guitar shop here in the city that has the fender $25k frankie guitar and i compared the two pickups.i didnt hear any difference between them..i comparedt hem playing through a 1971 marshall metalface plexi..if seymour duncan came out with the pickup for sale,yes i would buy it..i love the pickup!!!!!get one and find a fender frankie and compare it your self!!!the proof will be there,i was skeptical about it at first my self..sorry i posted this,thought i would be helping other EVH heads out that love the sound of that pickup
john
 
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How can this company put out an exact copy of the frankenstrat pickup when fender has the patent on it!
 
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How can this company put out an exact copy of the frankenstrat pickup when fender has the patent on it!

Fender does not have a patent on it, but what they do have is a legal agreement with Seymour Duncan. If the pickup ever sees the light of day, then that is Fender's decision.
 
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i would contact wade from motorcity pickups with your questions.from what wade told me,a company that he makes pickups for has the $25k guitar.they took the pickup out and sent it to him to copy it.you would have to ask him about the details,i dont know.i have a frankie copy guitar,i put his blisster in it and went to a high end guitar shop here in the city that has the fender $25k frankie guitar and i compared the two pickups.i didnt hear any difference between them..i comparedt hem playing through a 1971 marshall metalface plexi..if seymour duncan came out with the pickup for sale,yes i would buy it..i love the pickup!!!!!get one and find a fender frankie and compare it your self!!!the proof will be there,i was skeptical about it at first my self..sorry i posted this,thought i would be helping other EVH heads out that love the sound of that pickup
john

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The second style of pickup is a higher output pickup, again with a few tricks. The three days Eddie spent here in Santa Barbara yielded many great stories, but also some revelations, and today we have a pickup in the Frankenstein guitar that is not available anywhere else. There could come a day when Eddie himself makes that pickup available to the general public. For now, it is not.

The Guitar World interviews clearly state that the pickup in Franky still had the PAF stickers etc on it and read 0 on the meter. If that is the higher output pickup in question it was clearly modified. Can you at least explain how that is even possible technically? If it reads 0, I don't see how it can even function. I also can't understand why GW would knowingly publish inaccurate information either but clearly this doesn't add up. Was Chip Ellis possibly spreading a little disinformation to the rag?
 
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