RWRP Question for HSH with splits

[TFN-Tech]

I am building a custom assembly with a TB-4 trembucker in the bridge, 59N in the neck and the customer wants an SSL-1 in the middle.
I am also putting in two push pulls for coil splitting the HB's.

My question is for Hum-canceling.

If I get a standard wound SSL-1, will the screw poled coil of the Humbuckers be RWRP from the SSL-1 for humcanceling in 2&4?
or Do I need to get a RWRP SSL-1 for hum canceling with the screw poled coils on the HB's?

Thanks in advance for any help.
TomN

[Chi3f]

Re: RWRP Question for HSH with splits

i've wired something pretty close to this. However i don't wanna stear you in the wrong direction

[brandobean]

Re: RWRP Question for HSH with splits

EASY. Opposites attract. Determine the opposite polarities of the magnets by sticking the single coil to the humbucker (assuming the winds are consistant). You are going with all Duncans....right!?!?!??

Determine which side of the humbucker you intend to split. Use the single that is attracted to that side to pair up for the split.

That solves all the other problems as if the RW/RP does not attract with the side of the humbucker you want, send it to the neck and use the regular single for the middle position.

GOOD LUCK!

brando

[Fresh_Start]

Re: RWRP Question for HSH with splits

While this chart isn't perfect (especially for Tele pups - they vary a lot), it certainly helps: StewMac chart on polarity & wiring of different pickups

Based on my experience, if you are splitting S-D humbuckers so that the screw coils stay hot, then you need a RW/RP single coil in the middle. Also, I think you get a better Strat-like tone that way because the hot coils are further from the middle and closer to where Strat single coils would be.

Hope this helps,

Chip

[Jester700]

Re: RWRP Question for HSH with splits

Based on my experience, if you are splitting S-D humbuckers so that the screw coils stay hot, then you need a RW/RP single coil in the middle. Also, I think you get a better Strat-like tone that way because the hot coils are further from the middle and closer to where Strat single coils would be.
Chip

I prefer it the other way; I use the slug side for splitting, because of the greater output. A strat bridge pup is angled so that neither coil of a bridge bucker is in the "right place"; the inner coil is closer for the low E and the outer is closer for the high E - take your pick. But the inner coil is hotter. For the neck, I use the outer coil, but I flip the pup around so that the slug IS the outer coil.

[Fresh_Start]

Re: RWRP Question for HSH with splits

Jester -

You've got good points about pickup locations. I should have been more specific in that I like splitting to the outer coils in positions 2 & 4 (neck or bridge with middle) because it sounds more Strat-like to my ear, but the inner slug coil sounds better by itself in the bridge IMHO. I just don't use a split humbucker by itself anyway.

I'm not sure that the slug coil is "hotter" by definition for all S-D pickups. IIRC most have equal coils in terms of wire wrapping. Sure there's a slight difference in tone if you raise the pole pieces, but I believe that the location of the coil in relation to the string (and bridge) has a bigger effect on volume and tone. A string is actually moving less closer to the bridge - the greatest movement will be at the mid-point between the saddle and the nut (or fret used).

Probably worth less than 1 cent, but what the hey...

Chip