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    mrfjones
    Ultimate Tone Slacker

  • mrfjones
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    Re: "Airy" neck pickup for Les Paul

    Originally posted by korinastratkyle
    You're thinking Gretsch Filtertrons, my friend.

    i was close, here is what dimarzio has to say about the airbuckers:

    What are Airbuckers?

    Airbuckers are full-sized humbuckers that contain a gap or space between the magnet and the polepieces. The distance is quite small, and may be filled with nothing but air or by some non-magnetic material. The purpose of the gap is to lessen the magnetic field over the pickup, which in turn lets the string vibrate more freely. This results in a purer, more open sound and improved sustain.
    The other purpose of the air design is to reliably reproduce the performance of vintage humbuckers (1950s and 60s), many of which contain magnets weakened by age and mishandling. Weakened or "aged" magnets are inherently unstable, and therefore cause unpredictable performance. Airbuckers utilize stable, full-strength magnets, yet the magnetic field is the same as produced by an "aged" magnet, thus offering the performance advantage without the unpredictability.

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  • Ced777
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    Re: "Airy" neck pickup for Les Paul

    Originally posted by korinastratkyle
    You're thinking Gretsch Filtertrons, my friend.
    So think DiMarzio EJ Custom. "Filtertron copy" made for Eric Johnson. I ordered one for the neck.

    Ced777

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  • BlueSnMettle
    Michaelewski

  • BlueSnMettle
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    Re: "Airy" neck pickup for Les Paul

    Originally posted by ZxCv
    Is there anything that has the Airy sound of Dimarzio air-series (Air Classic, Air Zone, Air Norton) and is suitable on Les Pauls neck position without getting too muddy?

    Or am I just playing wrong type of guitar? I really dont like Ibanez-style guitars at all...

    My vote goes to the Antiquity. Have a set in my LP Std. and I love 'em. Warm, articulate & "airy" if you will. Very open sounding pups. Good luck.

    Peace,

    Darrin

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  • StrykeBack
    Tone Member

  • StrykeBack
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    Re: "Airy" neck pickup for Les Paul

    maybe people still want to use 9s? i don't know.
    I've got 11s on mine and the pickups are a little under 3/32nds...It's just a different design for a more open sound.

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  • theboatcandream
    dreamonologist

  • theboatcandream
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    Re: "Airy" neck pickup for Les Paul

    Why not just use slightly heavier strings and an actual A2 magnet?

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  • StrykeBack
    Tone Member

  • StrykeBack
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    thats part of it...so you can put that pickup closer to the strings if you want more "tone" or bass response but it won't affect the strings as much as some pickup magnets would. I belive my virtual PAF has something that distances the magnet making the magnet of an alnico 5 seem more like a 2 thus giving it that vintage tone...and it does sound very vintage gibsonish. Think Warren Haynes.

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  • bognerboy
    Junior Member

  • bognerboy
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    i thought that the "air" design of the dimarzios were designed to give less string pull thus giving it a more vintage tone.

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  • StrykeBack
    Tone Member

  • StrykeBack
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    u sure? someone on here said there is plastic or something acting as a spacer...anyways, I've got them in my mohagany SZ and I love em.

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  • korinastratkyle
    Tone Member

  • korinastratkyle
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    Re: "Airy" neck pickup for Les Paul

    Originally posted by mrfjones
    i want to say that the reason they are called air norton and air zone is that there is a little piece of wood separating the coils which puts air in between the coils.
    You're thinking Gretsch Filtertrons, my friend.

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  • Benjy_26
    25's Nemesis

  • Benjy_26
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    Re: "Airy" neck pickup for Les Paul

    Originally posted by ankalar
    What do you guys mean by "airy?"

    I take it to mean open, not dense. Where the sound is lush and you can hear every part of your guitar working, pickup, strings, AND wood.

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  • StrykeBack
    Tone Member

  • StrykeBack
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    Dimarzio's design to leave space inbetween the magnet and coil or whatever it is they do with a spacer is adds an airy open sound to their pickups. I've got an airzone in the bridge and a virtual PAF in the neck which sounds awesome.

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  • ankalar
    Ultimate Tone Member

  • ankalar
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    Re: "Airy" neck pickup for Les Paul

    What do you guys mean by "airy?"

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  • Neeradj
    Toneologist

  • Neeradj
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    Air Norton seems to be your thing my friend. Sounds warm and bell like in the neck spot, maybe even better clean ups than the '59. It does sound incredibly modern though, nice harmonics, huge picking attack and low output power chords. Never heard this thing get muddy

    The clear neck pick ups in the Duncan line are: The Seth and the Alnico II Pro. These are more vintage voiced pick ups, which sound a bit fat but stay articulate and sing. The '59 always gets muddy on me in a Les Paul, it cleans up beautifully though.

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  • mrfjones
    Ultimate Tone Slacker

  • mrfjones
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    i want to say that the reason they are called air norton and air zone is that there is a little piece of wood separating the coils which puts air in between the coils. I am not sure it has anything to do with the airiness of the sound, but i am not up on the current state of dimarzio pickup designs, so i could just be talking out my butt

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  • jeremy
    LoveMachineologist

  • jeremy
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    id say the antiquity neck is a great choice, and if you keep the pup low (any pup) itll have more of that airy sound

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