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  • Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

    I just got hold of my New 7's for my Ibanez and promptly took out the old pickups (very promptly, I might add ), and started looking for a schematic for the new ones.

    The only problem is, Ibanez have some sort of freaky 5 way swith that is completely different to the ones on every schematic I can find at the DiMarzio site.

    On the switch there are 8 lugs, all in a row, all the schematics have 2 rows of 5 or similar.

    On the 5 way it should be:

    1) Bridge HB Series
    2) Slug coil bridge HB/Screw coil neck HB in Parallel
    3) Bridge & Neck HB Parallel
    4) Neck HB Parallel
    5) Neck HB Series

    I have a couple of schematics from Ibanez but I need to figure out their colours in relation to DiMarzio before I can use it.

    Can anybody help me figure this out?

    All I need is either the colour translation, or a schematic that shows how to wire the Dimarzios up to that weird switch.

    "What frequency are you getting? Is it noise or sweet, sweet music?"

  • #2
    Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

    Hey rinse; I'm pretty sure that the Ibby 5-way looks like this:



    Does yours?

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    • #3
      Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

      yup that's the correct ibanez 5-way layout ... i think it's called a YB-50 switch .. or maybe YM-50 ... no matter the name, that is the one

      good luck
      t4d
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      "no seymour - no tone ... know seymour - know tone!"

      Is it not the glory of the people of America that, whilst they have paid a decent regard to the opinions of former times and other nations, they have not suffered a blind veneration for antiquity, for custom, or for names, to overrule the suggestions of their own good sense, the knowledge of their own situation, and the lessons of their own experience?" - James Madison - Federalist #14

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      • #4
        Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

        Originally posted by ArtieToo
        Hey rinse; I'm pretty sure that the Ibby 5-way looks like this:



        Does yours?
        Sorry it took so long to reply, different time zones and all.

        Yep, that's the one...
        "What frequency are you getting? Is it noise or sweet, sweet music?"

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        • #5
          Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

          Rinse; I'll doodle up a few things, but I don't really think you can get that combination of options with an ordinary 5-way. The Ibby 5-way is, more or less, standard, electrically, just shaped weird.

          I'll see what I can come up with, plus some otions.

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          • #6
            Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

            Originally posted by ArtieToo
            Rinse; I'll doodle up a few things, but I don't really think you can get that combination of options with an ordinary 5-way. The Ibby 5-way is, more or less, standard, electrically, just shaped weird.

            I'll see what I can come up with, plus some otions.
            Ok no probs thanks a load!

            The wiring above is the std Ibanez wiring (the screw coil/slug coill one may have just been one coil though), I just don't know what to connect to where to get the end result
            "What frequency are you getting? Is it noise or sweet, sweet music?"

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            • #7
              Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

              If it helps, this is the schematic for the pickups that came out

              http://www.ibanez.com/wiring/wire.asp?y=2000&w=RG7420
              "What frequency are you getting? Is it noise or sweet, sweet music?"

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              • #8
                Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

                do you want it to function exactly as it did with the stock pups, only with the SD pups?

                or are you looking for something different?

                that schematic is odd because it shows a bridge pickup with only 2 wires (plus ground) ... i am not sure how you can split a coil on a pup with only 2 wires ... seems impossible to me .. but i'll stare at it some more

                t4d
                gear list in profile

                "no seymour - no tone ... know seymour - know tone!"

                Is it not the glory of the people of America that, whilst they have paid a decent regard to the opinions of former times and other nations, they have not suffered a blind veneration for antiquity, for custom, or for names, to overrule the suggestions of their own good sense, the knowledge of their own situation, and the lessons of their own experience?" - James Madison - Federalist #14

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                • #9
                  Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

                  Originally posted by tone4days
                  do you want it to function exactly as it did with the stock pups, only with the SD pups?

                  or are you looking for something different?

                  that schematic is odd because it shows a bridge pickup with only 2 wires (plus ground) ... i am not sure how you can split a coil on a pup with only 2 wires ... seems impossible to me .. but i'll stare at it some more

                  t4d
                  Actually, they're doing there the same thing that Peavey does. The three wires are ground, hot, and then a tap of the junction of the two coils. Its the same as them connecting the red and white inside the pickup, then bringing that connection out. So, you can split them, but it would be difficult to parallel them.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

                    Originally posted by ArtieToo
                    they're doing there the same thing that Peavey does. The three wires are ground, hot, and then a tap of the junction of the two coils. Its the same as them connecting the red and white inside the pickup, then bringing that connection out. So, you can split them, but it would be difficult to parallel them.
                    That's what I thought, but that was the old pup's... new ones are dimarzios, they have red, white, black & bare, AFAIK red is hot, green is ground, that's all I know though

                    The switch positions above was from the ibanez site in the description for a rg7620, which is what these pups came from, although the positions on the schematic is slightly different (only one of the screw/slug coils is different)

                    I can't find anything to tell me what wire to connect to what lug for series etc. either which is a pain...
                    "What frequency are you getting? Is it noise or sweet, sweet music?"

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                    • #11
                      Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

                      Originally posted by tone4days
                      do you want it to function exactly as it did with the stock pups, only with the SD pups?

                      or are you looking for something different?

                      t4d
                      I would like it to be wired the same, but I'd be happy if I can get a noise from all of the positions.
                      "What frequency are you getting? Is it noise or sweet, sweet music?"

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                      • #12
                        Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

                        Ok, here's the same diagram with DiMarzio colors added:

                        Ibanez wiring with DiMarzio color code

                        Right-click, and save this pic, because I'll reduce it to a link later. (To save forum bandwidth.)

                        Edit: Pic changed to link to save bandwidth.
                        Last edited by ArtieToo; 11-14-2004, 05:28 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

                          Originally posted by ArtieToo
                          Actually, they're doing there the same thing that Peavey does. The three wires are ground, hot, and then a tap of the junction of the two coils. Its the same as them connecting the red and white inside the pickup, then bringing that connection out. So, you can split them, but it would be difficult to parallel them.
                          ah - gotcha - cool ... yeah internal parallel, i'm not seein' it
                          gear list in profile

                          "no seymour - no tone ... know seymour - know tone!"

                          Is it not the glory of the people of America that, whilst they have paid a decent regard to the opinions of former times and other nations, they have not suffered a blind veneration for antiquity, for custom, or for names, to overrule the suggestions of their own good sense, the knowledge of their own situation, and the lessons of their own experience?" - James Madison - Federalist #14

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                          • #14
                            Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

                            Thanks Artie, i'll get out the soldering iron in a bit, I owe you one!
                            "What frequency are you getting? Is it noise or sweet, sweet music?"

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                            • #15
                              Re: Wiring up an Ibanez, need some help...

                              I just got an email from the Dimarzio tech as I had a few questions about their pickups looking for replacements for the new Ibanez S470DX I have coming.

                              I was looking at putting a hum cancelling single coil in the middle position along with 2 new humbuckers (H-S-H) and his response was

                              "The latest version of the S470 doesn’t have the type of 5-way switch that will permit both a humcancelling pickup in the middle and still create a good Strat sound in the 2 & 4 positions. There are several approaches, but you might do best with a ‘true’ single-coil in the middle, such as a reverse-polarity Blue Velvet(DP170S). See attached diagram"

                              The diagram he sent me was just like the one rinse master posted ( I can't seem to post the image)

                              Would this be the case (no hum cancelling single coils) with Duncan pups as well? I don't know anything about wiring, I just play (quite badly I might add)
                              I'm an internet person. All we do is waste time evaluating things that have next-to-zero real world significance.

                              Remember, it's just a plank of wood. YOU have to find the music in it - The Telecaster Handbook

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