Thanks for your help! Blower/Jimmy Page mod with Diagram and Vid

[zionstrat]

Guys,
First, big thanks to GuitarDoc, Chistopher and Beaubrummels for helping me put together an Out of Phase, Series/Parallel, Pearly Gates parallel to self + P90 blower design. The client was extremely happy and the final diagram follows in case anyone wants to do this one in the future.

Also, posting a short video- the tonal variation is superb- Here’s a little background
• A studio owns this modified 1976 Les Paul Pro Deluxe and wanted as much variety as possible without cosmetic changes
• Has a beautful, thick p90 in neck
• Had been routed for a Gibson ‘TTop’ bucker in the bridge in the 70s- Rather thin and nasley, didn’t balance p90 very well.

Mods listed above provide extreme versatility
• P90 blower adds back high end detail and a little volume- Kind of an underwound sound, but with a bit more gain
• Pearly Gates is perfect balance with p90. And parallel to self, provides a great ‘Fenderish’ sound but remains humbucking
• Out of phase provides the Peter Green or thin crunch sounds
• Series gives the powerful Out of phase/Series combination that really cuts through with crunch
• Series by itself is dark and thick- Great with Thin amps

Bottom line, we have a happy customer and an updated schematic and I appreciate SDUG as always!
Much peace,
Michael


Video

Diagram



Previous Thread
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?323820-Blower-3-4-Jimmy-Page-design-Please-help!

 

[Mincer]

Re: Thanks for your help! Blower/Jimmy Page mod with Diagram and Vid

Wow, very cool, and great video!

 

[Artie]

Re: Thanks for your help! Blower/Jimmy Page mod with Diagram and Vid

Nice. Very tastefully done.

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Thanks for your help! Blower/Jimmy Page mod with Diagram and Vid

Excellent video. Wirings like that are extra painful to solder together.

 

[zionstrat]

Re: Thanks for your help! Blower/Jimmy Page mod with Diagram and Vid

Thanks guys!

Also,

Excellent video. Wirings like that are extra painful to solder together.

Christopher, yes it's a biggie, but it was far more of a challenge than I've ever had before- the luthier missordered the parts -instead of normal pots, he had purchased the short pots that have the little holes and numbers on the side instead of lugs on the end

As challenging as Jimmy pages can be, you can usually see the patterns and easy double check... ie 'X' wiring on the phase flip. With these pots, you can't see a thing once they're installed and you have to ground on the side instead of the back of the pot.

We didn't have time to reorder, so I mapped everything to the numbers and everything worked in the end.

I would never use those pots intentionally, but it was surprising to see how much space it saved- you could fit a pack of cigarettes on top of the pots in this LP, so I guess it really would make sense if you have a really shallow control cavity and it certainly looked extremely neat.

Live and learn, eh

 

[CaptainWhizz]

Re: Thanks for your help! Blower/Jimmy Page mod with Diagram and Vid

Keith Green? I thought the out-of-phase sound was based on Peter Green's Les Paul?

 

[zionstrat]

Re: Thanks for your help! Blower/Jimmy Page mod with Diagram and Vid

Keith Green? I thought the out-of-phase sound was based on Peter Green's Les Paul?

Yes, you are right- I inverted the Greens- good eye and I will edit for posterity.

 

[CaptainWhizz]

Re: Thanks for your help! Blower/Jimmy Page mod with Diagram and Vid

Yes, you are right- I inverted the Greens- good eye and I will edit for posterity.

Did they end up out of phase?

 

[zionstrat]

Re: Thanks for your help! Blower/Jimmy Page mod with Diagram and Vid

Did they end up out of phase?

Yeah, but think it was more like 33.6 degrees


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