Is there a problem with this diagram?

[ArtieToo]

While not a mistake per se, it would be nice if they brought back the old tone chart, in PDF format, with all the newer pups on it. It was a great quick reference that you could view offline.

Also, many of the pups on the website are missing their model number. Makes it difficult sometimes, when you're checking on a pup in a drawer.

[ArtieToo]

The master volume and bridge tone are flipped on the 3-way blade.

Good catch. Here it is corrected if Duncan & Co. would just like to replace it with this one.

[Jefro]

The wiring instruction sheet that comes with the STK-J2 Hot Stack Jazz Noiseless Pickup could use an update.
Document # P/N 501030-115 Rev D.

There is a small box with tiny print on the right side with CRITICAL INFO that can be easily overlooked.
"REVERSE THE GREEN AND BLACK WIRES FOR USE WITH STOCK FENDER TYPE P PICKUPS".
This info is no where to be found on the SD site, and is only printed on the included wiring diagram

This little box should be MUCH LARGER WITH LARGER TYPE.
After wiring up my Hot Stack Jazz to my Yamaha TRBX174 according to the wiring diagram, it sounded thin and weak.
Not Good.
Only after checking every wiring diagram on the SD site and reviewing the included diagram that came with the pickup did I see the tiny box with the critical info concerning the Reverse Wiring.
I eventually used the Alternate Wiring Method suggested, and it sounded great like it should.
See my thread in the Pickups Section here in the Forums....
Jefro.

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/forum/the-pickup-lounge/6197928-yamaha-trbx174-with-hot-stack-noiseless-jazz-pickup

[jeremy]

indeed they are, good catch

[RMichael]

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The master volume and bridge tone are flipped on the 3-way blade.

[Mincer]

I would be very appreciative of somebody could help me figure out if this can be done. Situation: two humbuckers, one volume, one tone, 5 way blade pickup selector switch.
I'm trying to achieve the following pickup configurations.
Position 1 : Neck humbuckers Position 2 : Neck North Single coil
Position 3 : Neck North Single Coil x (Neck south single coil x bridge north Single coil) to get that second/fourth strat position
Position 4 : Bridge South single coil x (Neck South single coil x bridge north Single coil)
position 5 : Bridge humbuckers

I don't know if this is possible but I'm trying to get the 2/4 positions out of a strat. Thank you guys. This place is fantastic!

Please make another thread. This thread is just for problems with illustrated Duncan Diagrams. I will delete this post when you make another thread, so this one stays on topic.

[PCMarks]

I would be very appreciative of somebody could help me figure out if this can be done. Situation: two humbuckers, one volume, one tone, 5 way blade pickup selector switch.
I'm trying to achieve the following pickup configurations.
Position 1 : Neck humbuckers Position 2 : Neck North Single coil
Position 3 : Neck North Single Coil x (Neck south single coil x bridge north Single coil) to get that second/fourth strat position
Position 4 : Bridge South single coil x (Neck South single coil x bridge north Single coil)
position 5 : Bridge humbuckers

I don't know if this is possible but I'm trying to get the 2/4 positions out of a strat. Thank you guys. This place is fantastic!

[gdboss]

I think the problem is the current revisions were done by a graphic designer to make them look better, but they don't have enough knowledge of electronics to proofread their work and spot a problem.

I don't want to be offending anyone, but if this was done by a graphic designer, I hope it was an intern, learning as they went... I mean, I know electronic configurations can get tricky, but you could magnify the area, or blow out a portion of the image, don't use silly font/typography, etc. It's fine I guess, but I'm watching the pickup installation course and I still have trouble following along with the wiring diagrams currently available.

[gdboss]

The dots are soldered connections. Solder the bridge ground wire to the back of the pot.

Appreciate it!

[beaubrummels]

I was just looking at this diagram on the main SD site and was like, WTF? That's not right. Glad it's been mentioned here already.


I don't know who is in charge of these diagrams but the fact that many have been pointed out as having errors and they appear to have NOT been corrected is concerning. Updating these things can be done from home with a computer and internet connection. This kind of work does not require being in an office. I'm really floored that these things have not been addressed yet regardless of the pandemic (again, work from home).

I think the problem is the current revisions were done by a graphic designer to make them look better, but they don't have enough knowledge of electronics to proofread their work and spot a problem.

[Mincer]

Noob question, are the black dots the lead wire (soldered) connections? And on the second pic where I have the red arrow pointed to the potentiometer, is that where I want to solder the bridge ground wire, or is that wire just 'hanging out' ?

Thanks for the feedback!

The dots are soldered connections. Solder the bridge ground wire to the back of the pot.

[gdboss]

Noob question, are the black dots the lead wire (soldered) connections? And on the second pic where I have the red arrow pointed to the potentiometer, is that where I want to solder the bridge ground wire, or is that wire just 'hanging out' ?

Thanks for the feedback!

[Mincer]

All I can do is pass it up, which I have done. I suggested a long term goal of looking at (and correcting) the entire database. I don't know if that is going to happen, so people on this forum at least have this thread.

[ErikH]

BeauBrummels is correct, no sound would be produced in either of those.

I added a Red wire that would replace the current, errant Black wire that comes off the volume pot and goes to the 5 way switch.

I was just looking at this diagram on the main SD site and was like, WTF? That's not right. Glad it's been mentioned here already.


I don't know who is in charge of these diagrams but the fact that many have been pointed out as having errors and they appear to have NOT been corrected is concerning. Updating these things can be done from home with a computer and internet connection. This kind of work does not require being in an office. I'm really floored that these things have not been addressed yet regardless of the pandemic (again, work from home).

[Jack_TriPpEr]

Re: Is there a problem with this diagram?



EDIT #2: In addition to GuitarDoc's feedback, I also just got confirmation from someone who wired their guitar with this diagram that they have no noise issue like I was concerned about in the Rails Only switch position.

Looks like the unterminated Finish wire (white) of the P90 in this position does not in fact emit noise like I suspected it would because apparently no signal flows through the P90 coil at all even though its Start wire (black) is connected to Hot. Apparently the P90 coil is bypassed by Hot signal entirely because there is a route to Ground available through the Rail coil.

So these two diagrams have been verified as NOT having any issues. (ref. Reply #11 and Reply #12 of this thread: https://forum.seymourduncan.com/show...=1#post4409894)

Thanks for reviewing it GuitarDoc!

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After more consideration and some recent posts by Artie where he himself has stated that a ungrounded coil that receives Hot signal is a potential source of RF noise because it is acting as an antenna, I change my conclusion about this diagram back to my original position. In the mode that yields the Rail coil only, the Black wire is connected to Hot signal and the White wire of that P90 coil is unterminated, so that coil can act as an antennae for noise. In low noise rooms/ environments, the issue may not occur.

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