DiMarzio's site

[jeremy]

Re: DiMarzio's site

there are those people. look around at other forum and youll find people that say "xy is the best" and wont concede anything...

[Stevo]

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Long flash intro then Steve Vai without a shirt.. um... woohoo

Are there any audio demos, considering that the "sound" is the bottom line?

[Truthsayer]

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If I hear one more person (and I'm sure I will) describe a pickup as sounding "organic", I'm going to upchuck.

Unless a pickup is of or derived from or relating to living organisms, or unless a pickup is grown on a farm which doesn't use chemical pesticides or fertilizers, there is no such thing as an "organic" pickup.

[Truthsayer]

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Long flash intro then Steve Vai without a shirt.. um... woohoo

Are there any audio demos, considering that the "sound" is the bottom line?

Yes.

[BornToShred]

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Very nice...

[mrfjones]

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If I hear one more person (and I'm sure I will) describe a pickup as sounding "organic", I'm going to upchuck.

Unless a pickup is of or derived from or relating to living organisms, or unless a pickup is grown on a farm which doesn't use chemical pesticides or fertilizers, there is no such thing as an "organic" pickup.

they are described that way because of the wood of the guitar. If a pickup lets the actual sound of the wood (like when it is played unplugged) come through then it is described as organic sounding. I don't like that designation much either but i see where it is coming from.

[RG 2570]

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If I hear one more person (and I'm sure I will) describe a pickup as sounding "organic", I'm going to upchuck.

Unless a pickup is of or derived from or relating to living organisms, or unless a pickup is grown on a farm which doesn't use chemical pesticides or fertilizers, there is no such thing as an "organic" pickup.

I was told that the best word was you know many say that duncans just sound more natural and dimarzio's have a more added tone to them?
i guess they are trying to say that duncans allow the natural tone of the guitar to come through more?
I dunno myself,i simply found the dimarzio's i tried to have more warmth and the duncans are rawer sounding or something?

[Stevo]

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Yes.

I clicked on several links and got "sorry no sound bites available at this time"

.. yeah lets just talk about sound, yeah cool.

[Truthsayer]

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they are described that way because of the wood of the guitar. If a pickup lets the actual sound of the wood (like when it is played unplugged) come through then it is described as organic sounding. I don't like that designation much either but i see where it is coming from.

Wood doesn't make any sound, and if it did, pickups couldn't pick it up. Magnetic electric guitar pickups only pick up string vibration.

I think the term you are looking for is "transparent". Which means that the sound coming from the guitar is not excessively "colored". I don't see how this can have anything to do with living creatures or natural fertilizer (organic) which almost always have a color and a smell too.

DiMarzio makes as many or more pickups with a relatively transparent tone as does Seymour Duncan. For example: PAF, Virtual PAF, Air Classic, PAF Pro, FRED, and PAF Joe are all relatively transparent pickups. Along the same lines for SD would be the Antiquities, Alnico II Pro, Seth Lovers, and perhaps the Pearly Gates. So I don't see how you could fairly say that one company makes more "transparent" or to use your term - more "organic" pickups than the other.

Keep in mind another thing. Your guitar amp, effects, and stomp boxes are going to do a lot more to color your tone than any pickup ever will.

[Evan Skopp]

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Truthsayer:

Thanks for your post and welcome to the User Group Forum. You obviously know a lot about pickups.

I notice you describe our Alnico 2 pickups as transparent. Interesting. Not the word I'd use -- but there's no right or wrong. To me, those Alnico 2 SD pickups you mentioned have softer attack, distort earlier and add warmth; especially to guitars that use bright-sounding woods like maple and ebony.

Or, maybe we're just using different words to describe the same thing. I could see how you'd call that transparent. Or some might use the word organic. Really, as long as we're using words to describe tone, we're always going to be relying on the other person's understanding of a word's meaning.

Anyway, stick around the Forum. I'm sure we could learn from you and you from us.

Take care,

[ranalli]

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Wood doesn't make any sound, and if it did, pickups couldn't pick it up. Magnetic electric guitar pickups only pick up string vibration.

I think the term you are looking for is "transparent". Which means that the sound coming from the guitar is not excessively "colored". I don't see how this can have anything to do with living creatures or natural fertilizer (organic) which almost always have a color and a smell too.

DiMarzio makes as many or more pickups with a relatively transparent tone as does Seymour Duncan. For example: PAF, Virtual PAF, Air Classic, PAF Pro, FRED, and PAF Joe are all relatively transparent pickups. Along the same lines for SD would be the Antiquities, Alnico II Pro, Seth Lovers, and perhaps the Pearly Gates. So I don't see how you could fairly say that one company makes more "transparent" or to use your term - more "organic" pickups than the other.

Keep in mind another thing. Your guitar amp, effects, and stomp boxes are going to do a lot more to color your tone than any pickup ever will.

I'm going to have to agree with this. I thought the PAF Pro was one of the most transparent pickups I've ever played....hence the reason why I took it out after a while....it made my guitar sound plain But it was still a great pickup IMO.

[Stevo]

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Wood doesn't make any sound, and if it did, pickups couldn't pick it up. Magnetic electric guitar pickups only pick up string vibration.

Wood has an influence on the way a string vibrates, therefore the chain reaction to the way the string effects the magnetic field. You can see the difference on an O-scope. A mohogany guitar will sound different than a swamp ash guitar, even when all components are the same.

[kill your scene]

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The Duncan website still does several things better than the DiMarzio website, such as a complete catalog of audio samples and this user forum. What we're lacking is a half-naked picture of Steve Vai on our pickups page. D'oh! I knew we forgot something! All jokes aside, it's a lot cooler than it used to be.

If any of the mods are reading this - Might there in the future be a "Compare DiMarzio and Duncan" sticky? We could compare and contrast Duncan models with their DiMarzio counterparts. It's not so much advertising for another company as it is providing a way to share information. All in the interest of healthy competition. Besides, is ANYone here moving to DiMarzio permanently? NO!

[Stratsky]

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If I hear one more person (and I'm sure I will) describe a pickup as sounding "organic", I'm going to upchuck.

Unless a pickup is of or derived from or relating to living organisms, or unless a pickup is grown on a farm which doesn't use chemical pesticides or fertilizers, there is no such thing as an "organic" pickup.

I don't know about the upchucking part, but I have to agree with you about referring to a pickup's sound as organic, woody, or what ever. All pickups are made from magnets, wire, metal, plastic; albeit they have different types of magnets, different gage wire, and variations in design and manufacturing techniques. Magnetic pickups all operate on the same principle. Tone is subjective. What you like, I might not. I've used and still use a variety of pickups including Seymour Duncan, DiMarzio, Fender, Lace Sensors, and Gibson. Two of the biggest influences of your tone are at the end of your arms. You have to take these forums for what they are, other people's opinions. My $0.02. I will come off my soap box now.

[WITH FULL DISTORTION]

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HAILS
I LOVE BOTH DUNCANS AND DIMARZIOS, and i have a special passion for bill lawrence l 500 xl.
very Transparent pickups.
a little lack of bass, but it still have more bass than teh jb, but i guess its mids and highs tone are different than the jb.
jb sings More. Bl cutts MORE.
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i´m eager to receive the soundclips of Dime59hum with his new schecter and the bill lawrence in the bridge and teh SD full shred in teh neck.
i´m really eager to hear that FS neck.
if i like, i will buy one of them
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