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How do I find the out put level for the Saturday night special pick up?
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The most you can do is compare the DCR of the SNS pickup to the DCR of a pickup you're familiar with. They are basically a PAF style pickup with the output of Gibson humbuckers from the late 50's and into the 60's.
That would be true for most of Duncan's PAF style pickups.“Practice cures most tone issues” - John Suhr
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duncan did post their mv output numbers before but i dont know how accurate they were, some were surprising. even if they were 100% accurate, they wouldnt be comparable to the dimarzio numbers unless both companies used the same exact process. its not an easy thing to measure but it would be nice info to have
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Originally posted by jeremy View Postduncan did post their mv output numbers before but i dont know how accurate they were, some were surprising. even if they were 100% accurate, they wouldnt be comparable to the dimarzio numbers unless both companies used the same exact process. its not an easy thing to measure but it would be nice info to have
If you picked hard would that result in a higher millivolt reading?“Practice cures most tone issues” - John Suhr
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right, and there are a ton of other variables as well. you basically need a machine setup so it hits the string exactly the same way every time with the pup in exactly the same position along with a control signal of some kind as reference. youll never get a number that corresponds to the actual output you would get but youd get a number that you could compare between duncan models.
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SD has never officially released output data on their pickups, although, unofficially, they released the results of a controlled test on this forum. It is hard to do a test like that, unless you invent some sort of picking machine to pick consistently on the same guitar with many different pickups. But, even then, this doesn't represent real-world use (no one picks like a machine does). So, we can say, that this pickup has more output than that pickup, which only works if you are familiar with the 2 pickups being compared.Administrator of the SDUGF
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jeremy coupled with the not so often used alnico 4 and the particular wind makes this puppy special. I've experienced drawbacks with 'Vintage' out put pups and high output too, so I would say these are perfec for those muscular pure rock and classic metal tones I paly!!!
I have a like my Suhr Thornbucker but next to the SNS it's weak. I can roll the volume back and get those same tones with the Duncan too.
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Output is too variable as a metric......as in there are too many ways to measure it, plus the possible protocols surrounding the test are widespread and not possible to duplicate.
It has become such a problematic area that everyone has settled on a common ,easily transferable between brands, metric.....but one that has little if anything to do with actual signal...DCR.
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They're slightly hotter 'PAF's. Basically sound like an overwound Jazz set with A4s to me. The neck isn't overwound enough to change the tone really at all from ur usual vintage neck bucker which has all the high end detail and chime. But the bridge is overwound to the point to where it's starting to get slightly middy.The things that you wanted
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Originally posted by jeremy View Postdcr and inductance are easily measurable, mv output isnt but it can still be a useful metric, as shown by dimarzio. its only useful for comparing dimarzios to dimarzios but that in and of itself is useful
I’d love for Duncan to come up with a way to measure it like Dimarzio.
Of course, as already discussed, there would need to be a way to establish some sort of baseline and use that as the reference.
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