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    MattPete
    Ultimate Tone Slacker

  • MattPete
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    Originally posted by Fresh_Start

    Also, what value is your tone capacitor? If it's .047uf or even .033uf, you might try a .022uf cap to brighten up the guitar.

    Will a cap really make any noticable difference when the tone control is on 10? I installed a push-pull pot for a tone control that switched between .047uf and .010uf, and I couldn't tell any difference until the tone was rolled down 3/4s of the way.

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  • ArtieToo
    Peaveyologist

  • ArtieToo
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    Hopefully, I'll get the Stag Mags installed in my Patriot today . . . along with my "personality control", that resolves the issue of 250k or 500k.

    Stay tuna'd.

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  • dr.barlo
    Mojo's Minions

  • dr.barlo
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    Sure, what I said is confusing and not correct to get exactly 250K. As you imply the correct formula would be (500-x/2), x being the resistance value of the unit. Hence, 470K (I guess the standard value, no?) or so would make it go down to some neighborhood of 250K.

    I ended up with the 240K on a ~470K pot, and frankly speaking did not check the resistance of the pot after the mod. But it tames the tele bridge just fine, that's why!

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    dr.barlo
    Mojo's Minions
    Last edited by dr.barlo; 05-25-2004, 05:10 AM.

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  • Marcel
    Super Toneologist

  • Marcel
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    Originally posted by dr.barlo
    Don't change the pot. Instead use a resistor unit, like 240K or 120K depending on your tastes. Installing it would be easier. + like I did you even can install a miniswitch (or a push pull pot) to select 500K versus (500-x)K (x either 240K or 120K).



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    why 120k or 240k?
    if you want to install the resistor parallel you need a 500K resistor or similar to get about 250 K

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  • dr.barlo
    Mojo's Minions

  • dr.barlo
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    Originally posted by wasteofo2
    Changing from 500k to 250k pots makes a huge difference. In my SG I currently have JB in the bridge with 500k pots. I think it sounds too bright, so I'm going to change them to 250k pots. I could record some before/after stuff to show the difference.

    However, I don't have any idea how much of a difference there'd be between 250k and 300k pots.
    Don't change the pot. Instead use a resistor unit, like 240K or 120K depending on your tastes. Installing it would be easier. + like I did you even can install a miniswitch (or a push pull pot) to select 500K versus (500-x)K (x either 240K or 120K).



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  • Fresh_Start
    Ultimate Tone Slacker

  • Fresh_Start
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    Originally posted by Fusion1
    How would 300k pots sound in place of 250k pots in a dark strat with a Hot Rails bridge and a lil 59 or cool rails neck and ssl middle?
    I don't think you would hear enough difference between a 250k and a 300k pot. I tried a 500k tone pot in an H/S/S strat and thought it was too bright - a 250k tone pot did the trick nicely. You might try the opposite - 500k for you tone pot(s). Changing the volume pot is supposed to have a greater affect, but I haven't tried that.

    Also, what value is your tone capacitor? If it's .047uf or even .033uf, you might try a .022uf cap to brighten up the guitar.

    Finally, is it dark even with the volume at "10" or just too dark as you roll off the volume? If it's only too dark after you've rolled the volume down, then a "treble bleed" might help. There are a lot of different opinions about what cap, resistor (if any), and combination method (series or parallel) works best for a treble bleed, so you'd better search this forum to see what everybody has to say...

    Sorry to go off topic - hopefully this helps Fusion1.

    Chip

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  • wasteofo2
    Oxygen-Enriched Tonologist

  • wasteofo2
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    Changing from 500k to 250k pots makes a huge difference. In my SG I currently have JB in the bridge with 500k pots. I think it sounds too bright, so I'm going to change them to 250k pots. I could record some before/after stuff to show the difference.

    However, I don't have any idea how much of a difference there'd be between 250k and 300k pots.

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  • Metalman_666
    Ultimate Tone Slacker

  • Metalman_666
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    do pots really make that much of a diff?

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  • Fusion1
    Mojo's Minions

  • Fusion1
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    How would 300k pots sound in place of 250k pots in a dark strat with a Hot Rails bridge and a lil 59 or cool rails neck and ssl middle?

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  • dr.barlo
    Mojo's Minions

  • dr.barlo
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    Originally posted by BlackRose
    Well, I sold about 1,100 500K pots last year and no 300K pots. Most of them went in LP's. I guess you can make your own conclusion from that!! :-)
    A very important stat regarding this question!

    Cool!

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  • papersoul
    Mojo's Minions

  • papersoul
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    Originally posted by jeremy
    ive used 300k pots with good results but not very often, and only once with buckers (a jb jazz set by the way, sounded killer)
    I actually like the JB with 500ks and yes.......the 500k pots are staying in my LP!

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  • RG 2570
    Toneologist

  • RG 2570
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    I think it depend on the tone you want? i read a 300K makes the output drop slightly and bleeds some highs?
    I am also real interested in the 1 meg which is said to let the most output through the signal as well as highs?

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  • xerxes
    X Marks the Toneologist

  • xerxes
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    whats the difference in sound?

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  • jeremy
    LoveMachineologist

  • jeremy
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    ive used 300k pots with good results but not very often, and only once with buckers (a jb jazz set by the way, sounded killer)

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  • John Wymore
    Toneologist

  • John Wymore
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    Re: Does anyone prefer 300k pots?

    Well, I sold about 1,100 500K pots last year and no 300K pots. Most of them went in LP's. I guess you can make your own conclusion from that!! :-)

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