I'm considering upgrading my HSH configuration guitar with 2 p-rails. The 5-way switch currently blends between half the humbucker and the middle single coil in the 2 and 4 positions. If I were to replace the humbuckers with p-rails and triple shot rings, what would/could the effect of the 2 and 4 switch positions be? Thank you.
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I would wire the 5 way to act just like a normal 5 way switch. The fancy switching comes in with the Triple Shot rings, so you get whatever is selected by those rings along with the middle pickup in 2 & 4.
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Originally posted by Mincer View PostWelcome to the forum!
I would wire the 5 way to act just like a normal 5 way switch. The fancy switching comes in with the Triple Shot rings, so you get whatever is selected by those rings along with the middle pickup in 2 & 4.
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Sure, I like the STK-S4, the Classic Stack Plus, because it is a louder, classic single coil sound that is noiseless. But I don't know what you use your middle pickup for, or what sound you want out of them.
What don't you like about the current pickup you have, and what music do you play?Administrator of the SDUGF
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Originally posted by Mincer View PostSure, I like the STK-S4, the Classic Stack Plus, because it is a louder, classic single coil sound that is noiseless. But I don't know what you use your middle pickup for, or what sound you want out of them.
What don't you like about the current pickup you have, and what music do you play?
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Originally posted by ArtieToo View PostI can't add much to Mincer's recommendation. I love my STK's also. Then again, a Cool Rails would be a nice aesthetic touch between the "rails" of the P-Rails. And, they sound killer.
And welcome to the forum.
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The STK sounds more like a single coil, while the Cool Rails sounds like a clean and clear humbucker.Administrator of the SDUGF
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Cool Rails often gets compared to a Jazz neck, but it's got a focus more like a firebird pickup, thanks to the narrower magnetic field and rail poles.
Assuming you have neck & bridge P-Rails, I'd go with the STK-S4m, myself (m is reverse wind, reverse polarity so that it has correct phase with the bridge P-90 and the neck rail). You might prefer it to have correct phase with the bridge rail & the neck P-90, in which case I'd use the regular STK-S4.
If you are going with two P-Rails neck models, then I'd go for the STK-S4m to have both in correct phase with the rails.
[Phase information on STK-S4 & STK-S4m combined with P-Rails was from Frank Falbo [P-Rails designer]: "Our standard single coils will cancel with the Neck P90 and the Bridge Rail. Our RW/RP single coils will cancel with the Neck Rail and the Bridge P90."]
Cool Rails middle could be split to different coils when combined with bridge or neck, with a more complicated wiring scheme (or even to split to keep phase with P-90 or Rails on either pickup), so if you prefer that pickup, avoiding hum/phase cancellation is possible, but seek help elsewhere for sorting out the wiring diagram and switching scheme...
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Originally posted by Mincer View PostSure, I like the STK-S4, the Classic Stack Plus, because it is a louder, classic single coil sound that is noiseless. But I don't know what you use your middle pickup for, or what sound you want out of them.
What don't you like about the current pickup you have, and what music do you play?Last edited by mrosebrock; 01-21-2021, 02:56 AM.
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Wow, that sounds like an awesome project. Post some pics when you get the P-Rails installed.Administrator of the SDUGF
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Originally posted by Mincer View PostWow, that sounds like an awesome project. Post some pics when you get the P-Rails installed.
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If you order the set, I don't believe the bridge is a Trembucker. But they do have a Trembucker one available.Administrator of the SDUGF
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Originally posted by Mincer View PostIf you order the set, I don't believe the bridge is a Trembucker. But they do have a Trembucker one available.Last edited by mrosebrock; 01-30-2021, 05:32 AM.
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I remember using the Triple Shot in the normal pack for a Trembucker pickup before. I see a reference online to a 'Trembucker Triple Shot' but honestly, I can't find any reference to a separate pack of Triple Shots with a special bridge one for a Trembucker. If there was, there would be that option, but I don't see it anywhere.
Now I am curious. It would seem strange to leave that tidbit out of the ad copy for the Triple Shot packs.
Anyone else know this?Administrator of the SDUGF
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