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  • #31
    listening on my laptop, the last one sounds the most slash like. the 2nd has a little bit of hollowness to the mids that the others dont. with that much gain and the tone rolled down, the tone is pretty similar

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    • #32
      Like I said - My T-top is more Slash than Slash....
      Originally posted by Bad City
      He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by PFDarkside View Post
        Excellent Ace.

        I will now work on my guitar playing instead of tone chasing. Literally any of the three would work fantastically.

        And thinking more about it, to me the output sounded like 3 was the strongest, followed by 1, followed by 2, which I guess matches up with the results? Still, my takeaway is get some decent pickups in the guitar and spend more time playing, less time reading.

        T-Top is, I believe , the weakest output of all of them. And...marginally a little further than the A2P from the strings!
        Originally posted by Bad City
        He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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        • #34
          I am really impressed with how the this t top sounds closer to the Slash tone, much more than the A2P. As I said I thought it was the PGn. Mmmh I am getting deaf.. Anyway Aceman could you please share one more sample playing this t top with the tone up to 7/8?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by EmiAba View Post
            I am really impressed with how the this t top sounds closer to the Slash tone, much more than the A2P. As I said I thought it was the PGn. Mmmh I am getting deaf.. Anyway Aceman could you please share one more sample playing this t top with the tone up to 7/8?
            Full disclosure - as I have said: I hate T-Tops. Most meh in the world, IMO. If you dig them, cool. I don't. EXCEPT....I love it in this guitar! So it stays.

            I can clip a few other things of it.
            Originally posted by Bad City
            He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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            • #36
              Thing is, the A2P in Slash's Derrig Les Paul is such a perfect combination with that particular guitar. That Les Paul (though a copy), has such mojo that it just works. Perfectly. Now, if want more bite and a little more push, then try the Slash A2P neck. That is the answer. I much prefer that one to the stock A2P. It's what makes his newer Les Pauls sound like the Derrig. As for the Gibson varieties, I have no idea about those.

              Roll the tone up some too instead of it all the way back. Add some highs back in there for some bite. Live he may roll the tone back but on the album, I don't think he did. Doesn't sound it anyway.

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              • #37
                When I play the PG, I usually roll the tone to about 3 or 4. Sounds great. I just used zero here for easy consistency. I think PF nailed not though - it removed a lot of the differences.
                Last edited by Aceman; 04-07-2021, 01:35 PM.
                Originally posted by Bad City
                He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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                • #38
                  I love T-tops - in neck position. Only ever had one guitar where a stock T-top was genuinely great at the bridge though.

                  I consider T-tops singlehandedly responsible for the explosion of the replacement-pickup industry in the 70s.

                  In this clip, with a drive tone and the guitars' tone knobs all the way off, I'm surprised there was any audible difference.
                  Still, there definitely was.
                  .
                  "My hovercraft is full of eels."

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                  • #39
                    i searched this forum up and down for t-tops some time ago, so i know your stance on t-tops and this particular one where you can smell the jack daniels in the room when you play it or something...

                    damn i was wrong on all of them, but to be fair i only had a brief moment with a t-top replica in the neck (reminded me of an A2P indeed) , but never a pearly gates neck. so i only now the A2Pn.
                    Do you have the same stringgauge on all of them? maybe different tonecap? more stringbuzz?
                    the A2P needs more gain to compete, me thinks.

                    Also funny that mister hears it all, didn't even bother to give a guess.

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                    • #40
                      Smell the JD - LOL; That guitar is 42 years old and been through 3 legit bands. Worse than JD has been on it!

                      The Deans are probably the same. Shouldn't be any funky caps in the LP. It has a full CTS harness inside.
                      - Same gauge, all 10's, likely GHS on the LP, and NYXL's on the Deans. The A2P strings are newer.

                      Again - the REAL issue is not which is which, but which do you like best? I like the PG best. My fave LP neck pup period. Cutting, juicy, and sweet.

                      Originally posted by Bad City
                      He's got the crowd on his side and the blue jean lights in his eyes...

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                      • #41
                        well i will try the PGn some day (since i own a set, only tried the bridge in an SG).
                        from your clips i liked the t-top the most, as already stated.

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                        • #42
                          1 and 3 were my fav's, that t-top works cops the slash tone. I don't know about #2, it was just missing some of the sizzle the others had.

                          Cool experiment either way.

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                          • #43
                            those blind tests are fun!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Aceman View Post
                              So I got my A2P's wired in to my Tigereye Caddy. And I thought you all needed a little sound sample. But that would be too simple. So I went all Goldilocks and the Three Bears on y'all! Here is a Soundcloud clip of me playing the intro riff to Sweet child on 3 different guitars.

                              I play one round, followed by a D chord each time, so guitar/pickup combo A/B/C. 3 different Les Paul style guitars, each with a different neck pickup. I will tell you this about the clips:

                              Mesa Stiletto, Tight Gain channel, EQ/Gain the same for all...pretty much around 5 on everything. Mids a little higher.
                              Guitars all 500k pots, neck pickups, Vol on 10 and Tone on 0.

                              Recorded with iPhone, about 8" from the left speaker cone center. No effects, no post no nothing. The oddities at the first couple of notes are iPhone mic, I assume. Could be my attack also I guess. The creaking noise between end of riff and chord is my chair.

                              Listen and discuss.
                              - Which is the A2P? What are the other pickups? Which do you dig the most? Which don't you like?

                              https://soundcloud.com/acemansdug/a2p-sample

                              Or for those who prefer Video with labels...

                              1 & 3 sound the most "authentic" to the recording. 2 sounds weak.
                              Sanford: "The hardest part about tone chasing is losing the expectations associated with the hardware."

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                              • #45
                                Romans 3:23; 6:23; 5:8; 10:13; 10:9-10

                                Teknon Theou

                                Complaining that there are hypocrites in church is like complaining that fat people use the gym. Where else would you have them be?

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