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    Well I wound up getting a PRS SE Custom 24 in faded blue burst. String height was way too high and pickups have way too much bottom end and a blanket over the speakers sound. Debating on if pickup pole pieces and pickup height should be adjusted or should I just get the Seymour Duncan Hot Rod set (JB bridge & Jazz neck and get the PRS 5 way switch along with locking tuners?
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  • #2
    I went Custom / Pearly Gates neck in mine. It sings.
    Guitars:Gibson LP Trad ('57 Classics), Epiphone Les Paul Special (SP90-1 set), PRS SE CU 24 Flametop (TB5/PGn), Ibanez RG870RWZ (PATB set) & S761FM (TB16/STK-S7 m&n), Jackson DK2 (TB10/VRn/CRn), LTD MH-1000HS (TB15/Lil59n), ST213A (HRb/STK-S4 m&n) & TE212 (Hot Stack/A2Pn), Squier VM JM (SJM-1 set);Effects:L6 Helix Floor, Digitech Drop & FreqOut, Mission Engineering EP1-L6;Shure GLX-D16;

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    • #3
      Posted my recommendations to the other thread with more commentary.

      Short version: Custom with JazzN or 59N. Or, the Distortion set for more mass & muscle.
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      "Brains have been washed. Fear has been mongered. Now we prepare for the final stage of our conspiracy theory." - Isle Of Dogs

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      • #4
        If you're finding the PRS SE pickups muffled, the quickest / best way to fix this may actually be changing the pots, rather than the pickups.

        Everyone's ears are different, but as a guy who likes bright tones, that isn't at all how I heard those pickups when I had them, so maybe you can dial in your rig a bit more? Those pups are, I'd say, surprisingly good for stock pups in a budget guitar - especially the neck. I thought the the bridge pup was a bit anemic, but maybe just needed a magnet swap to fill in some mids (though I never tried this - I pulled them and put in some duncans)

        One reason I'd suggest adjusting your rig and pots first is that those pups are only wound to like 8.0 in the neck and 8.8 in the bridge (or at least, mine were). A hotter wind like some of the above mentioned pups might very well roll off even more high end, and you could end up with an even more muffled tone.

        Maybe try making your tone pot no-load, and seeing if that helps? Or, if you dont wanna rip the pot open to do this (though a replacement is only like $1 soooo its a low risk endeavor), just disconnect the tone pot from the circuit and see if it sounds better to you. That's functionally the same as having a no-load tone pot, so if that sounds better, you may have found your problem.
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        • #5
          Those pickups are Asian made copies of the 85/15s that come in the USA made PRS. For the price level of the guitar they can be pretty good, but basically any SD combo will be better. Be sure to get 4 conductor versions, as the PRS wiring style of partial coil splitting sounds a LOT better than typical coil split wiring to my ears.

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          • #6
            I would definitely spend some time playing with pickup height and adjusting pole pieces. It sounds like the guitar wasn't adjusted well when you got it, so I wouldn't be surprised if you just haven't found the "sweet spot" yet.

            If your guitar is 2019 or newer, it should also have the Cort-made pickups, which seem to be a little more dynamic and clear sounding than the older G&B versions. I have a 2020 model and I wouldn't describe the pickups as overly bassy or having a "blanket over the speakers" effect at all. And I own plenty of guitars with Duncan, DiMarzio, etc to compare to.

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            • #7
              Also, what sound are you going for?
              Dave, Ambassador/Writer/Artist for Seymour Duncan

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              • #8
                The SE 85/15s split incredibly well, cut through a mix with little to no processing in both HB and single coil modes, and have a nice "polished" sound already. In return for these characteristics, you give up a little "organic" feel. They are really quite unique in this way, and they make the SE play differently than other guitars. It's up to you whether you want this or not. I've performed and written a ton of music on my SE Custom with those 85/15s, but pulled them for JB/Jazz recently... time will tell if the stock pickups go back in. Heck, I've even done recordings without an amp and they sound amp-like... it's almost like there's a bit of amp sound built into the pickup.

                Always worthwhile to play with adjustments, pickup height especially only takes a few minutes. I had success with lowering the pickups to be flush with the mounting rings, seemed to open them up a bit. Also guitar volume at 8, and lots of amp EQ fiddling.
                Originally posted by crusty philtrum
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mincer View Post
                  Also, what sound are you going for?
                  Our Classic rock/hard rock/80's hair metal covers band is a 2 guitarist band, me and other guitarist and we do everything from Grand Funk Railroad to AC/DC to Judas Priest to 90's rock right now.
                  Charvel Model-5fx EMG 85/SA
                  Epiphone Les Paul Custom Korean SD JB/Jazz
                  Custom Made Ernie Ball Musicman Copy Dimarzio Super Distortion's
                  2019 EVH 5150 III 50 Watt Head 6L6
                  1995 Mesa Boogie Tremoverb converted to Head
                  Mesa Tremoverb 2x12 cab (factory Vintage 30's) converted to closed back
                  Marshall 1960A 4x12 (2 Celestion G12T-75's and 2 WGS Retro 30's X patterned
                  Pedaltrain Mini: Currently on pedalboard: ModTone MT-CB Clean Boost, Zoom MS-70CDR, Korg Pitchblack Tuner)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Charvel1975 View Post

                    Our Classic rock/hard rock/80's hair metal covers band is a 2 guitarist band, me and other guitarist and we do everything from Grand Funk Railroad to AC/DC to Judas Priest to 90's rock right now.
                    Either a Hot Rodded set or a 59 an a Custom will do what you want.
                    Dave, Ambassador/Writer/Artist for Seymour Duncan

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by alex1fly View Post
                      The SE 85/15s split incredibly well, cut through a mix with little to no processing in both HB and single coil modes, and have a nice "polished" sound already. In return for these characteristics, you give up a little "organic" feel. They are really quite unique in this way, and they make the SE play differently than other guitars. It's up to you whether you want this or not. I've performed and written a ton of music on my SE Custom with those 85/15s, but pulled them for JB/Jazz recently... time will tell if the stock pickups go back in. Heck, I've even done recordings without an amp and they sound amp-like... it's almost like there's a bit of amp sound built into the pickup.

                      Always worthwhile to play with adjustments, pickup height especially only takes a few minutes. I had success with lowering the pickups to be flush with the mounting rings, seemed to open them up a bit. Also guitar volume at 8, and lots of amp EQ fiddling.
                      Does my PRS already have the treble bleed from the factory? I like being able to preserve treble while rolling the volume down and if possible not remove bass for the whole travel of the volume knob.
                      Last edited by Charvel1975; 11-25-2021, 09:57 PM.
                      Charvel Model-5fx EMG 85/SA
                      Epiphone Les Paul Custom Korean SD JB/Jazz
                      Custom Made Ernie Ball Musicman Copy Dimarzio Super Distortion's
                      2019 EVH 5150 III 50 Watt Head 6L6
                      1995 Mesa Boogie Tremoverb converted to Head
                      Mesa Tremoverb 2x12 cab (factory Vintage 30's) converted to closed back
                      Marshall 1960A 4x12 (2 Celestion G12T-75's and 2 WGS Retro 30's X patterned
                      Pedaltrain Mini: Currently on pedalboard: ModTone MT-CB Clean Boost, Zoom MS-70CDR, Korg Pitchblack Tuner)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Masta' C View Post
                        I would definitely spend some time playing with pickup height and adjusting pole pieces. It sounds like the guitar wasn't adjusted well when you got it, so I wouldn't be surprised if you just haven't found the "sweet spot" yet.

                        If your guitar is 2019 or newer, it should also have the Cort-made pickups, which seem to be a little more dynamic and clear sounding than the older G&B versions. I have a 2020 model and I wouldn't describe the pickups as overly bassy or having a "blanket over the speakers" effect at all. And I own plenty of guitars with Duncan, DiMarzio, etc to compare to.
                        Right now at our practice spot I'm running it through my 95 Mesa tremoverb head and mesa 2x12 cab that's in my signature into a Behringer powered pedal board with a couple Behringer pedals: delay, tube overdrive and a Tc electronic corona chorus and line 6 g30 wireless and when I first got the prs before my other guitarist lowered the string height, on the Mesa I had to lower the bass control on the Mesa on the red channel to around 9 o clock and increase the treble and presence on the red channel. Amp is running 8 Ohm.
                        Charvel Model-5fx EMG 85/SA
                        Epiphone Les Paul Custom Korean SD JB/Jazz
                        Custom Made Ernie Ball Musicman Copy Dimarzio Super Distortion's
                        2019 EVH 5150 III 50 Watt Head 6L6
                        1995 Mesa Boogie Tremoverb converted to Head
                        Mesa Tremoverb 2x12 cab (factory Vintage 30's) converted to closed back
                        Marshall 1960A 4x12 (2 Celestion G12T-75's and 2 WGS Retro 30's X patterned
                        Pedaltrain Mini: Currently on pedalboard: ModTone MT-CB Clean Boost, Zoom MS-70CDR, Korg Pitchblack Tuner)

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