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  • Strat Bridge Single-coil Options - 60s Tone

    I'm debating on whether to swap out the bridge single-coil of my Squier Classic Vibe 60's Strat for something with a little more beef and not as bright. Mine has the Fender Designed Alnico V pickups in it (all of the CV guitars do as of 2018-2019). I had thought of slapping a whole set of Tonerider Classic Blues in there. I checked out a few noiseless options. In the end, I think I want to stick with a true single-coil. I like the neck and middle pickups. The bridge just needs a little more. I do not want SSL-5/6 levels or hotter, not even a QP.

    Looking at options in the SD catalog, the Antiquity II or the Antiquity Texas Hot seem to be the most logical choices. Might be a bit much cost wise for a CV but at the same time, it's not an Affinity and much nicer quality. Maybe the Fender Tex-Mex bridge?

    Any other slightly hotter than vintage recommended options?

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    The SSL-1 comes in at 6.5 kohm.

    The SSL-5 at 13.3 kohm, so quite a jump.

    The Antquity Texas Hot comes in at 9.8 kohm, but Alnico-2 magnets. Might be a good halfway between the SSL-1 and the SSL-5, however.

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    • #3
      The Antiquity II bridge is 9.8k with Alnico 5 magnets.

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      • #4
        You might consider a Rio Grande Muy Grande. It looks like a QP but it's around 8K but still very beefy sounding.

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        • #5
          Those Antiquity IIs are remarkable sounding pickups, which are about as early 60s sounding as you can get out there.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by ErikH View Post
            The Antiquity II bridge is 9.8k with Alnico 5 magnets.
            Surfer II bridge is a great pickup, some extra body but not overwound/compressed sounding.

            A couple of non-Duncans that fit in the same category:

            Zhangbucker Paul Bunyan Strat, fabulous and one of my favorites - ten feet tall, still 100% Strat.
            Rio Grande Muy Grande - another good one, beefier than stock yet quite Stratlike.
            D. Allen "Echoes" bridge - strong & sweet and also tapped, for better position 2 quack and/or low output sound when desired

            Also consider the Pinktone bridge from Onamac Windery - good muscular Strat tone, and more affordable than any of the above options.
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            • #7
              Nice options. This says it all that I am after, "some extra body but not overwound/compressed sounding".

              I forgot about Lollar. He has a Special S Strat bridge that is 7.6k and sounds fantastic!

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              • #8
                The stock Fender designed CV pickups have what I would call a "modern" stagger. The E, A, B, E string poles are all flat but the D and G strings are slightly raised and at the same level. Not that it matters what I go with in the bridge. I thought it was interesting to see a stagger like that.
                Last edited by ErikH; 05-05-2022, 09:08 AM.

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                • #9
                  I think the STK-S7 Vintage Hot Stack might be what you're looking for. It's a little bit (not a ton) beefier than an SSL-1 and noise cancelling for when you want to add some extra gain, and is lower output than an SSL-5. Also noise cancelling, which is always nice for the bridge when you stomp on the gain pedals.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GuitarStv View Post
                    I think the STK-S7 Vintage Hot Stack might be what you're looking for. It's a little bit (not a ton) beefier than an SSL-1 and noise cancelling for when you want to add some extra gain, and is lower output than an SSL-5. Also noise cancelling, which is always nice for the bridge when you stomp on the gain pedals.
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                    • #11
                      The Vintage Hot Stack does 'feel' different, as the hotter output starts to compress a little bit. If someone is parting out a Jimi Hendrix set, you might be able to snag one. It is a great late 60s sound.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ErikH View Post
                        I'm debating on whether to swap out the bridge single-coil of my Squier Classic Vibe 60's Strat for something with a little more beef and not as bright. Mine has the Fender Designed Alnico V pickups in it (all of the CV guitars do as of 2018-2019). I had thought of slapping a whole set of Tonerider Classic Blues in there. I checked out a few noiseless options. In the end, I think I want to stick with a true single-coil. I like the neck and middle pickups. The bridge just needs a little more. I do not want SSL-5/6 levels or hotter, not even a QP.

                        Looking at options in the SD catalog, the Antiquity II or the Antiquity Texas Hot seem to be the most logical choices. Might be a bit much cost wise for a CV but at the same time, it's not an Affinity and much nicer quality. Maybe the Fender Tex-Mex bridge?

                        Any other slightly hotter than vintage recommended options?
                        I find the TexMex set the perfect "hotness" for a hot traditional strat. I did put a Callaham baseplate on the bridge before I tried it out, so I'm not sure how they would have sounded without it.

                        Maybe you could try a baseplate on your current bridge pickup? I just bought 4 on ebay for $19 shipped after taxes.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ErikH View Post
                          ...something with a little more beef and not as bright. ... The bridge just needs a little more. I do not want SSL-5/6 levels or hotter, not even a QP.
                          The one I have most experience with is the Antiquity I Texas Hot. It's got some drive to it, less bright than typical Stratty pickups, but still mixes perfectly with real vintage Strat pickups (I mean, real vintage - e.g. I have it in my 1966 Strat and it matched perfectly, it's the pickup that made me a Duncan-aholic ever since the 90's). It can almost sound Tele-ish/humbuckery through the right amp also.

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                          • #14
                            Some great suggestions. After playing it tonight at worship rehearsal for the first time in a while, I think I may be looking at replacing the whole set. I even have a .1uf tone cap and they can still get a little too bitey. Yes, 250k pots throughout, CTS brand that I put in last year.

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                            • #15
                              Be sure to check out Fender PV 65’s - great sounding set

                              Klein Epic 65 set - a few notches “better” than the PV 65 set - high end

                              but honestly, NOTHING beats the SSL 1 set I love a SSL 1 / 1 / 5 set up. Just can’t be beat.

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