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  • Telecaster PUP Update - School me

    I've got a humbucker (neck) / single coil (bridge) telecaster that I want to replace the PUPs in. I want Stones sounds (out of the humbucker) and Led Zep as well as spanky sounds out of the single coil pup. My original thought was to pair a Seth Lover and '54 Vintage SC. I plan to use a 4-way switch with 250K pots. Is this a good match? Better ideas?

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    Well, those are a great choice out of what could be a lot of great choices. Keep in mind that the neck HB will overpower a vintage-style single coil in the bridge. That might not be an issue for you at all, but it annoys some people.
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    • #3
      Sounds like a more than solid set to me for what you're looking for. I'm more of a fan of a threeway switch myself though, with no splitting options. I say go for the 4 way switch now and change it to a 3 way if you find out you don't need one of the positions, makes a heck of a lot more sense than the other way around.
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      • #4
        Could work fine. Another option might be an Antiquity neck with a Broadcaster bridge.

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        • #5
          I would suggest a hotter bridge single.
          You don‘t really want all that twang unless you play country.

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          • #6
            A JD is a killer Tele bridge. I think it's my favorite. Especially when paired with a mini-hum neck.

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            • #7
              If you want an more even sound with the neck humbucker, you could do a spin-a-split with a 4 conductor humbucker or look into Zhangbuckers. David specialised in humbucker for tele necks.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Chistopher View Post
                Sounds like a more than solid set to me for what you're looking for. I'm more of a fan of a threeway switch myself though, with no splitting options. I say go for the 4 way switch now and change it to a 3 way if you find out you don't need one of the positions, makes a heck of a lot more sense than the other way around.
                Ya, I wondered if I wasn't needlessly complicating things with the 4-way. The 4-way gives you a "series" (out of phase) position if I understand correctly. I'm not sure about the wiring schematic but there must be something out there.

                BTW, I see options on the Seth Lover Humbucker as to the cable. I see "1C Braided" and "4C shielded". My Telecaster guitar body/pickguard is shielded. Is this a 4 wires versus 1 wire choice until the cable crosses into the control cavity? I assume there will be 4 conductors regardless.

                And thx for the advice.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hamerfan View Post
                  If you want an more even sound with the neck humbucker, you could do a spin-a-split with a 4 conductor humbucker or look into Zhangbuckers. David specialised in humbucker for tele necks.
                  Well, it looks like I have a bit more surfing to do. Thx for the advise...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ToneFiddler View Post
                    I would suggest a hotter bridge single.
                    You don‘t really want all that twang unless you play country.
                    I guess I was trying to keep the impedance close... I think the Seth Lover is 7.4 and the '54 SC is 7.0. Do I need a higher impedance SC to get the output levels to match better? I know HB PUPS are hotter than SC, how high up would I need to go? I see the Quarter Pounder at 17K... I do want some country-spank left from the bridge, but it's not the first priority.

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                    • #11
                      i think a seth neck and jb or broadcaster bridge would work well, though i am very partial to mini humbuckers or firebird pups in the neck of teles

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jeremy View Post
                        i think a seth neck and jb or broadcaster bridge would work well, though i am very partial to mini humbuckers or firebird pups in the neck of teles
                        I love minis and FB pickups in the neck of a tele. They tend to balance better than full size humbuckers and can give you a fat, yet articulate tone.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kdlp View Post

                          I guess I was trying to keep the impedance close... I think the Seth Lover is 7.4 and the '54 SC is 7.0. Do I need a higher impedance SC to get the output levels to match better? I know HB PUPS are hotter than SC, how high up would I need to go? I see the Quarter Pounder at 17K... I do want some country-spank left from the bridge, but it's not the first priority.
                          There is just more string volume in the neck position than the bridge, so generally the bridge would need to be a little hotter to balance. Not as hot as the QP. Maybe as hot as the Jerry Donahue.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by chadd View Post

                            I love minis and FB pickups in the neck of a tele. They tend to balance better than full size humbuckers and can give you a fat, yet articulate tone.
                            My firebird Tele isn‘t finished, but I might be able too try it soon.

                            a filtertron neck is also a great match in a Tele neck!
                            it‘s clearer than a PAF to me.

                            Jerry Donahue is the lowest I would go. You still will have to roll down the tone quite a bit for a early page tone. It‘s not really hot, just not borderline bright anymore.
                            Maybe la brea bridge will work too, but I don‘t own that one, but seems similar to the bare knuckle yardbird Tele pickup, which I think goes after the page Tele tones…

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                            • #15
                              To really match a neck humbucker I would go for something like the zhangbucker Paul Bunyan, but I never tried to get something like a page sound out of it.
                              definitely something he didn‘t use

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